Maya
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Post by Maya on Apr 4, 2022 11:50:08 GMT -8
I'm not sure if this is to do with the shell but it annoys me that whenever a program isn't responding the windows 10 titlebar shows up. Can I fix this somehow?
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 4, 2022 11:54:54 GMT -8
Sadly no. It seems to be handled by DWM, where the hack to enable classic theme doesn't work on it.
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Maya
Freshman Member
Posts: 53
Theme: Project 2000 (Im lazy)
CPU: PC Intel Core i5-3470
RAM: 8gb
GPU: GTX 1080
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Post by Maya on Apr 4, 2022 11:58:04 GMT -8
Sadly no. It seems to be handled by DWM, where the hack to enable classic theme doesn't work on it. Ah that sucks, it has to be the single most fugly and jarring thing to do with my PC.
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Post by R.O.B. on Apr 7, 2022 23:02:36 GMT -8
IIRC, and please don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that that the reason why this happens is because frames for windows that are not responding are handled by csrss.exe or winlogon.exe or something. Can't remember exactly which one, but either way those are critical system processes that Windows absolutely needs to even start up. So because they're already running by the time the classic theme is enabled, they never actually switch to it. Fixing this would most likely require something very low-level, given that it's even possible at all (I'm not even sure that it is). Perhaps a custom driver or something would work? Regardless, it should go without saying that this would be extremely tricky to pull off, and could potentially even introduce security/stability issues. The only other thing I can think of would be to somehow use SetSystemVisualStyle to get them use the classic theme, however I can tell you that a few experiments that Splitwirez and I did with this a few years back were ultimately unsuccessful. It may be possible in theory, but I would have no idea where to begin with it.
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Post by TechSalt on Apr 8, 2022 4:23:47 GMT -8
IIRC, and please don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that that the reason why this happens is because frames for windows that are not responding are handled by csrss.exe or winlogon.exe or something. Can't remember exactly which one, but either way those are critical system processes that Windows absolutely needs to even start up. So because they're already running by the time the classic theme is enabled, they never actually switch to it. Fixing this would most likely require something very low-level, given that it's even possible at all (I'm not even sure that it is). Perhaps a custom driver or something would work? Regardless, it should go without saying that this would be extremely tricky to pull off, and could potentially even introduce security/stability issues. The only other thing I can think of would be to somehow use SetSystemVisualStyle to get them use the classic theme, however I can tell you that a few experiments that Splitwirez and I did with this a few years back were ultimately unsuccessful. It may be possible in theory, but I would have no idea where to begin with it. I believe dwm.exe handles the one without a icon
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Post by R.O.B. on Apr 17, 2022 13:37:06 GMT -8
IIRC, and please don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that that the reason why this happens is because frames for windows that are not responding are handled by csrss.exe or winlogon.exe or something. Can't remember exactly which one, but either way those are critical system processes that Windows absolutely needs to even start up. So because they're already running by the time the classic theme is enabled, they never actually switch to it. Fixing this would most likely require something very low-level, given that it's even possible at all (I'm not even sure that it is). Perhaps a custom driver or something would work? Regardless, it should go without saying that this would be extremely tricky to pull off, and could potentially even introduce security/stability issues. The only other thing I can think of would be to somehow use SetSystemVisualStyle to get them use the classic theme, however I can tell you that a few experiments that Splitwirez and I did with this a few years back were ultimately unsuccessful. It may be possible in theory, but I would have no idea where to begin with it. I believe dwm.exe handles the one without a icon You know what, I think I might be mixing up unresponsive windows with certain error dialogs that are spawned by those processes. My bad.
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