scops
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Post by scops on May 4, 2023 12:40:09 GMT -8
You can try Vivaldi, if Chromium browsers aren't a deal breaker.
I tried Pale Moon, but many sites look broken on it due to its ancient engine. Also tried Seamonkey as you mentioned, same story like Pale Moon.
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deerfarm
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I'm ready to learn how to cooodeee!!!!!!!
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Post by deerfarm on May 4, 2023 20:27:04 GMT -8
Is it possible to change windows 11 login ui with Python? I'm brand new to coding, don't know how to do nothing yet, but stuff like this is why I want to code. So I don't want to use a program that isn't able to do what I want to do
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slafk
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Post by slafk on May 6, 2023 8:07:07 GMT -8
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vistalover07
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Posts: 179
OS: Project 2000
Theme: Constantly Changing/Maple
CPU: Intel I5-10400f/Celeron N3350
RAM: 16gb/4gb
GPU: RTX 3060 12GB/Intel HD Graphics 500
Computer Make/Model: ASUS X541NA
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Post by vistalover07 on May 20, 2023 0:03:01 GMT -8
I`ve heard about classic logon shell, so you can explore it
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Post by hexagonwin on Jun 10, 2023 1:42:44 GMT -8
Hi all. I'm curious if anyone has ever tried to get WinXP or Win2000, or maybe even NT4's explorer on modern Windows versions (7, 8, 10, 11). These versions of explorer are much faster, consume less resource and is much quicker than their modern equivalents, and of course has 100% compatibility with the classic theme.
As the source code of these version of Windows are leaked, I'm sure that it's possible to modify them for modern windows, or just use the binaries from old Windows versions and modify them slightly. I'm asking here first as I'm pretty sure someone has already tried them..
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vistalover07
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Posts: 179
OS: Project 2000
Theme: Constantly Changing/Maple
CPU: Intel I5-10400f/Celeron N3350
RAM: 16gb/4gb
GPU: RTX 3060 12GB/Intel HD Graphics 500
Computer Make/Model: ASUS X541NA
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Post by vistalover07 on Jun 11, 2023 22:58:12 GMT -8
It can be work if someone will make it work correctly in modern windows
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Post by dron008 on Jun 21, 2023 20:18:11 GMT -8
Hello. I am happy to find this forum. I didn't expect that so many people like good old classic theme.
Recently I had to upgrade to Windows 10 and now struggle with its dumb UI. But I don't want to solve a complex task of returning UI to Win7 classic completely. I just need an ergonomic UI for my tasks. I need to easily see that program is active/inactive on taskbar and by its title (ideally with classic Win7 gradient). I also need to have classic thin gray borders around windows. So it is ok for me to have new window button style, to keep new file explorer as it is and so on.
I tried RetroBar for the taskbar. It is quite good for me and I like that is doesn't join together same tasks like 2 Chrome windows. But has some issues: - no system context menu for tasks - notification bar is too condensed - Win 10 desktop programs list icon doesn't exist there - no calendar on time icon click - order of icons is not adjustable and not stable - it also has WinXP style and I get used to Win7 style of buttons. - it would be nice to have Win10 task button notifications but it is optional. Anyway it is quite usable now. I also used ClassicShell but did not restored it yet in Win 10, just want to give a change to standard Win 10 start menu and its features.
As for window titles When I change accent color to blue, I see ugly blue window borders so I've set accent color as light gray but it made active and inactive windows look the same and all labels in settings windows are gray on white, so hardly readable. I actually don't understand how MS expected to made everything readable with a single accent color. Even their accent preview dialog for any accent color gives 4 variants some of which are always unreadable.
When I choose "Enable colored title bars" in Winaero Tweaker I see correct window titles but windows are without borders at all and it makes it hard to resize. I would wish to keep a thin gray border.
So my question is if there is some easy solutions for that like editing a theme or some tweaks? I worry about modifying system files and making any low-level changes because I need my computer for work, so it should be stable and I need standard windows components be unchanged.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 22, 2023 12:08:40 GMT -8
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Post by dron008 on Jun 22, 2023 16:15:51 GMT -8
Thank you but unfortunately that is not what I need. 1. It is a tutorial for Win 11 and I have Win 10. 2. It requires many system changes, modifies Explorer look which I wish to avoid. 3. The result doesn't look good to me. Taskbar has Win 10/11 underlines instead of buttons. Also underline just indicates open window, not window with active keyboard focus.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 23, 2023 6:06:36 GMT -8
Thank you but unfortunately that is not what I need. 1. It is a tutorial for Win 11 and I have Win 10. 2. It requires many system changes, modifies Explorer look which I wish to avoid. 3. The result doesn't look good to me. Taskbar has Win 10/11 underlines instead of buttons. Also underline just indicates open window, not window with active keyboard focus. To answer your problems: 1. This tutorial is compatible with Windows 10, it is not specific to Windows 11 2. You don't have to change the appearance of the explorer, just ignore these steps. 3. To have buttons instead of underlin , the only solution is to use TaskBow (the link is given in the tutorial). It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. On the other hand, I don't really see a solution for the active keyboard focus. In Windows 7, what did it look like ?
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Post by dron008 on Jun 24, 2023 19:21:42 GMT -8
1. This tutorial is compatible with Windows 10, it is not specific to Windows 11 2. You don't have to change the appearance of the explorer, just ignore these steps. 3. To have buttons instead of underlin , the only solution is to use TaskBow (the link is given in the tutorial). It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. On the other hand, I don't really see a solution for the active keyboard focus. In Windows 7, what did it look like ? 1. Great. 2. Ok, thank you. It would be cool to see this in tutorial as it is not clear what changes are required for a new look and what are mandatory. 3. I'll try to learn how to implement it partly and I'll probably keep RetroBar for task bar solution (maybe I will contribute to is as I am a programmer but not sure I'll find time for that). I saw TaskBow site but didn't get from the screenshots that it has classic theme. There are only multicolor styles. If it has classic theme I'll try it. As for active windows I just mean usual active windows with blue header background (like the one in this forum). When I have many windows open and type something on the keyboard input goes to the active window. I used to it and when I see gray window background it makes me think that window is not active and switch it. From what I could understand, I can either remove a border and use active/inactive titles or have window borders and set some accent color which will be applied to both active and inactive window's titles and also to window border. So I made it gray and border looks good but header is always gray. No way to have different color for active and inactive window title and gray color for window borders. Changes in registry don't change anything in this case. Update: I tried TaskBow and in my system it looks corrupted, no bottons, no classic taskbar look at all, some black icons in settings. I would better keep RestroBar.
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Post by dron008 on Jun 24, 2023 19:26:12 GMT -8
I re-read the tutorial and I think that before installing and changing anything I need to have clear understanding what it changes, what are the risks, how will I be able to revert changes. I wish to see it in the tutorial to minimize the chance of ruining clearly installed system. It is a long instruction now and I don't understand what items could be easily avoided and what are required to add classic theme.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 26, 2023 14:20:16 GMT -8
1. Great. 2. Ok, thank you. It would be cool to see this in tutorial as it is not clear what changes are required for a new look and what are mandatory. 3. I'll try to learn how to implement it partly and I'll probably keep RetroBar for task bar solution (maybe I will contribute to is as I am a programmer but not sure I'll find time for that). I saw TaskBow site but didn't get from the screenshots that it has classic theme. There are only multicolor styles. If it has classic theme I'll try it. As for active windows I just mean usual active windows with blue header background (like the one in this forum). When I have many windows open and type something on the keyboard input goes to the active window. I used to it and when I see gray window background it makes me think that window is not active and switch it. From what I could understand, I can either remove a border and use active/inactive titles or have window borders and set some accent color which will be applied to both active and inactive window's titles and also to window border. So I made it gray and border looks good but header is always gray. No way to have different color for active and inactive window title and gray color for window borders. Changes in registry don't change anything in this case. Update: I tried TaskBow and in my system it looks corrupted, no bottons, no classic taskbar look at all, some black icons in settings. I would better keep RestroBar. For Taskbow, it needs to be configured properly. I will detail that tomorrow. The result is not perfect, but it works. Regarding the active windows, I understand better. Are you talking about windows with the classic theme or without the classic theme ?
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Jun 26, 2023 14:21:07 GMT -8
I re-read the tutorial and I think that before installing and changing anything I need to have clear understanding what it changes, what are the risks, how will I be able to revert changes. I wish to see it in the tutorial to minimize the chance of ruining clearly installed system. It is a long instruction now and I don't understand what items could be easily avoided and what are required to add classic theme. I will try to detail the steps necessary or not. On the other hand, it is clear that everything is reversible.
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Post by dron008 on Jun 28, 2023 16:40:26 GMT -8
Regarding the active windows, I understand better. Are you talking about windows with the classic theme or without the classic theme ? I am talking about the current Win 10 windows without any software tweaks. I hoped to slightly modify it without low-level system modification to 1) have gray borders; 2) have blue background for active windows. But probably it is not possible. I will try to detail the steps necessary or not. On the other hand, it is clear that everything is reversible. That's great, thank you. I need to try it.
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Souper
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OS: Manjaro | Windows 10 (2021)
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Post by Souper on Jul 3, 2023 14:23:28 GMT -8
For active windows, you can enable colored titlebars under Colors in Personalization. Gray borders would be determined by theme, so you probably won't be able to achieve that with the standard Windows 10 theme.
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Post by computerdumbass on Jul 6, 2023 19:43:14 GMT -8
So, I've been thinking that maybe I could use the compatibility feature that Windows 2000 has to run KernelEx and then use Firefox 52 with it. Reason being that Opera 12 and Firefox 12 aren't quite what I need to do what I need. However, the properties section has no compatibility feature, and I haven't been able to work DosBox well enough to use KernelEx with Windows 2000.
Is there a way to enable compatibility in Windows 2000 to use KernelEx?
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Post by computerdumbass on Jul 6, 2023 20:11:40 GMT -8
or am i just stupid
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Post by betamaster on Jul 6, 2023 23:07:14 GMT -8
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Post by computerdumbass on Jul 7, 2023 4:39:09 GMT -8
Yoooo thanks man I needed this cause Windows 2000 just DIDN'T feel like working for whatever reason
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