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Post by enderboy on Apr 14, 2024 8:15:17 GMT -8
Those lines aren’t different to the ones in the uifile yes they are not different , as I sayed befeore you have to change attributes values to find the best placement for button and remove the space What do you think of this?  sud.dll (698.5 KB) |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 14, 2024 12:33:12 GMT -8
You should take a look at taskbar properties instead of that page that almost no one knows about. Taskbar properties is something that lots of people use frequently. Personally, I think that the problem is not so much that no one is using it, but rather that restoring this applet is non-functional. Either it is considered that all the applets must be restored to a working state, even if some are rarely used, or it is considered that only the applets which are used deserve to be restored. But having a non-functional applet has, in my opinion, no point. This is personal, I can understand that some people like to give the impression of a perfect resemblance to old systems, even if everything is not functional.
Regarding the taskbar properties, the problem is that torto wrote his applet in C, not C#. But it seems to me that mehraanakbarii is a .NET developer. And starting the project from scratch seems like a waste of time. The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.
There can be TranslucentTaskbar, 7+TasbarTweaker, OpenShell, StartIsBack/StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher, Taskbow, TaskbarX/TaskbarXI, RainbowTaskbar, Windhawk mods...
If I had torto's taskbar properties source code I can rewrite all in c# because I can understand C either , torto's taskbar properties to me is perfect and only we could add some of start menu settings to it |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 14, 2024 12:35:59 GMT -8
Personally, I think that the problem is not so much that no one is using it, but rather that restoring this applet is non-functional. Either it is considered that all the applets must be restored to a working state, even if some are rarely used, or it is considered that only the applets which are used deserve to be restored. But having a non-functional applet has, in my opinion, no point. This is personal, I can understand that some people like to give the impression of a perfect resemblance to old systems, even if everything is not functional.
Regarding the taskbar properties, the problem is that torto wrote his applet in C, not C#. But it seems to me that mehraanakbarii is a .NET developer. And starting the project from scratch seems like a waste of time. The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.
There can be TranslucentTaskbar, 7+TasbarTweaker, OpenShell, StartIsBack/StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher, Taskbow, TaskbarX/TaskbarXI, RainbowTaskbar, Windhawk mods...
I am talking about the pre W10 1607 one. Not about any other third party tools. And what do you mean by "The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.". This doesn't have anything to do with legacy taskbar properties. Also he stated that this remake of location CPL is going to be functional. my location CPL remake is functional I just make it look like a dialog with a fixed size instead of a page , because of there is only one setting in it |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 14, 2024 13:02:08 GMT -8
If I had torto's taskbar properties source code I can rewrite all in c# because I can understand C either , torto's taskbar properties to me is perfect and only we could add some of start menu settings to it This is exactly the problem I was talking about. It seems counterproductive to me to rewrite everything in C#, when it works very well in C (plus, a C/C++ program will always have good performance). For the start menu settings, it may be better to write a separate applet. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 14, 2024 13:06:31 GMT -8
I am talking about the pre W10 1607 one. Not about any other third party tools. And what do you mean by "The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.". This doesn't have anything to do with legacy taskbar properties. Also he stated that this remake of location CPL is going to be functional. I just wanted to say that if we want to be as useful as possible for the user, we should write an applet with as many options as possible (therefore including the parameters of third-party software). That doesn't mean it's relevant. |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 14, 2024 13:09:30 GMT -8
Personally, I think that the problem is not so much that no one is using it, but rather that restoring this applet is non-functional. Either it is considered that all the applets must be restored to a working state, even if some are rarely used, or it is considered that only the applets which are used deserve to be restored. But having a non-functional applet has, in my opinion, no point. This is personal, I can understand that some people like to give the impression of a perfect resemblance to old systems, even if everything is not functional.
Regarding the taskbar properties, the problem is that torto wrote his applet in C, not C#. But it seems to me that mehraanakbarii is a .NET developer. And starting the project from scratch seems like a waste of time. The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.
There can be TranslucentTaskbar, 7+TasbarTweaker, OpenShell, StartIsBack/StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher, Taskbow, TaskbarX/TaskbarXI, RainbowTaskbar, Windhawk mods...
I am talking about the pre W10 1607 one. Not about any other third party tools. And what do you mean by "The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.". This doesn't have anything to do with legacy taskbar properties. Also he stated that this remake of location CPL is going to be functional. only toolbars tab is missing from torto's taskbar properties compare to pre 1607 one , all other settings are existed and working fine , Idk what other "taskbar properties" do you want to be exist there? do you want toolbars tab ?  |
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Post by arbestriagain on Apr 14, 2024 14:09:48 GMT -8
yes they are not different , as I sayed befeore you have to change attributes values to find the best placement for button and remove the space What do you think of this? View AttachmentView AttachmentIs the change program button supposed to be so w i d e? |
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Post by enderboy on Apr 14, 2024 22:12:47 GMT -8
Is the change program button supposed to be so w i d e? To fill up the space yes but if someone can find out how to get it beside the text that would be even better |
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Post by Brawllux on Apr 14, 2024 22:30:08 GMT -8
I am talking about the pre W10 1607 one. Not about any other third party tools. And what do you mean by "The complicated thing about the taskbar is that the number of settings depends on the customization tools installed.". This doesn't have anything to do with legacy taskbar properties. Also he stated that this remake of location CPL is going to be functional. only toolbars tab is missing from torto's taskbar properties compare to pre 1607 one , all other settings are existed and working fine , Idk what other "taskbar properties" do you want to be there? do you want toolbars tab ? View AttachmentYeah, exactly that. But the navigation part is also different in the recreation. |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 0:47:30 GMT -8
only toolbars tab is missing from torto's taskbar properties compare to pre 1607 one , all other settings are existed and working fine , Idk what other "taskbar properties" do you want to be there? do you want toolbars tab ? View AttachmentYeah, exactly that. But the navigation part is also different in the recreation. I think recreate whole program in .net framework just because of that toolbars tab which all of it functionalities are available in windows 10's taskbar context menu is just waste of time, also consider that native c and c++ app having much better performance than .net framework , unfortunately I never developed a windows program using C because I can only understand C's syntax nothing more |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 0:50:35 GMT -8
Is the change program button supposed to be so w i d e? To fill up the space yes but if someone can find out how to get it beside the text that would be even better I can , if I had some time I will try to remove space and push the button in front of description text |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 1:44:26 GMT -8
I can not make it better than this I my self prefer default one   101.xml (13.8 KB) sud.dll (636 KB)
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 9:04:59 GMT -8
I am going to work on default programs by app remake project I hope I could make it , if you guys found a source code of same program even with less functionalities please send me , also I am going to find a way to patch sud.dll to make that set default programs page working and stop it from crashing
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 12:27:59 GMT -8
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 15, 2024 15:37:36 GMT -8
I am going to work on default programs by app remake project I hope I could make it , if you guys found a source code of same program even with less functionalities please send me , also I am going to find a way to patch sud.dll to make that set default programs page working and stop it from crashing I found this: github.com/microsoft/winfile/blob/master/src/wfassoc.cIt's in C and the code is old, but it could potentially be useful. This is a dialog box for configuring default programs by file type.
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 15, 2024 16:38:01 GMT -8
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 16, 2024 5:53:36 GMT -8
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Post by Brawllux on Apr 16, 2024 7:48:06 GMT -8
I have an idea,you should add the ability to launch specific pages via launching the program with arguments. Like launching the exe with the argument "UWP" should launch default UWP apps page directly instead of the 2 choice main menu you made. This way i can integrate this into the pack and edit the original one accordingly to open the correct pages. |
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Post by mehraanakbarii on Apr 16, 2024 11:34:52 GMT -8
I have an idea,you should add the ability to launch specific pages via launching the program with arguments. Like launching the exe with the argument "UWP" should launch default UWP apps page directly instead of the 2 choice main menu you made. This way i can integrate this into the pack and edit the original one accordingly to open the correct pages. I am gonna combine both UWP and Win32 apps associations into one page exact same as windows 10 pre 1709 , currently I made a main menu and used default programs editor app as a temporally workaround for win32 apps associations |
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Post by torto on Apr 16, 2024 12:39:27 GMT -8
If I had torto's taskbar properties source code I can rewrite all in c# because I can understand C either , torto's taskbar properties to me is perfect and only we could add some of start menu settings to it It is open source (GPL2). Source code is on GitLab (I have just released a new minor version BTW). But I agree with what others have said... start menu settings should be separate, and the "Toolbars" page is pretty useless, having those options in the taskbar context menu. |
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