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Post by infobot on Aug 24, 2024 21:03:34 GMT -8
Maybe you can help me with the following. When you open a folder then in most themes the folder color is always completely white and that bright light irritates me when seeing it too long. It looks like there is no real good solution for the white open folders. So I always use the high contrast themes which is part of the classic themes. I set all my windows colors to mild gray and the problem is solved. But because the open folder color isn't completely white there is a new problem that arises. In windows 8, 10, 11 there is a white lightning flash when you open a folder window. It is not there in windows xp and windows 7 classic theme. You can only see the white flash when darker colors than white are used in the windows theme! When a folder window is opened then windows 10 starts to build the colors of that window, it starts with white! In xp when you open a folder on the desktop it just starts with the color of the background of the desktop. But in w10 it starts with white. Not everybody notices it because a lot of people use the original theme of windows and in that case almost everything is white. The problem is a bit solved when the windows animations are all on but I don't like those irritating animations. Even now when people start using black themes microsoft hasn't done anything to change this. It seems hard coded in the product. Link to a youtube movie made by someone where you can see that it starts building the window with white. Discussion at microsoft. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/high-contrast-themes-issue/ff386d33-dcfe-4116-8d4a-9c8cd06eb4c0Could you help me solving this problem?
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vistalover07
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Post by vistalover07 on Aug 25, 2024 0:30:02 GMT -8
The only solution i can think of is to use classic theme
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 25, 2024 5:35:06 GMT -8
The only solution i can think of is to use classic theme If the goal is to use a high contrast theme, this seems to me to be the only solution. If it's just to use a dark theme, maybe some third-party visual styles don't have this problem, but I don't know.
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Post by infobot on Aug 25, 2024 19:29:47 GMT -8
When opening a folder you always get everything white, there are no themes in this world that can open with a different color. That is the case since windows 7 aero and is the case since windows 8 even with the classic theme.
I want to keep using the classic theme with mild gray colors because there are no themes that can open a folder without being totally white. But with a classic theme and then opening a folder you get that white flash.
The white flash would be very irritating when using a black theme but even when using my mild gray theme it is very irritating.
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Post by infobot on Aug 28, 2024 10:46:47 GMT -8
Maybe I will buy a new computer and w11 is installed, I like w7 more with the classic theme but maybe w7 cannot be installed.
But there are some threads here on WinClassic that explain that you can use the classic theme on w11. But there is a white flash opening folders in w11 using a darker background. I will not buy a new computer when the white flash is there.
Do you see a white flash in latest w11 using the classic theme?
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Post by Brawllux on Aug 29, 2024 1:21:53 GMT -8
Maybe you can help me with the following. When you open a folder then in most themes the folder color is always completely white and that bright light irritates me when seeing it too long. It looks like there is no real good solution for the white open folders. So I always use the high contrast themes which is part of the classic themes. I set all my windows colors to mild gray and the problem is solved. But because the open folder color isn't completely white there is a new problem that arises. In windows 8, 10, 11 there is a white lightning flash when you open a folder window. It is not there in windows xp and windows 7 classic theme. You can only see the white flash when darker colors than white are used in the windows theme! When a folder window is opened then windows 10 starts to build the colors of that window, it starts with white! In xp when you open a folder on the desktop it just starts with the color of the background of the desktop. But in w10 it starts with white. Not everybody notices it because a lot of people use the original theme of windows and in that case almost everything is white. The problem is a bit solved when the windows animations are all on but I don't like those irritating animations. Even now when people start using black themes microsoft hasn't done anything to change this. It seems hard coded in the product. Link to a youtube movie made by someone where you can see that it starts building the window with white. Discussion at microsoft. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/high-contrast-themes-issue/ff386d33-dcfe-4116-8d4a-9c8cd06eb4c0Could you help me solving this problem?
I am using Windows 10 rn and this problem does not happen with the default theme,same for my 11 VM, there is no flashing.
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Post by infobot on Sept 1, 2024 17:36:43 GMT -8
On msfn UCyborg has figured some things out and said:
Testing in my Win10 20H2, there seems to be something at fundamental level. Creating bare bones app with a window, I made it use red color for background, hints here. So register a class, create a (initially hidden) window, then show it. I made a breakpoint before ShowWindow and right afterwards. After it went in ShowWindow, window was briefly shown in white and then it switched to red. Without color specified, it would stay white. On Windows XP, when it finished with ShowWindow, the window's content (technically called client area) was see-through if background color isn't specified, but if it is, the selected color is seen right away. I'm sure Microsoft could optimize it if they wanted or go with the right theme dependent color right away, but it's probably low on priority list, if it's there at all! UCyborg said: I tried on Windows 8.1 and it does appear to be influenced by DWM. You can force it off there with some hackery, when it's on, empty window does appear white when background color is not specified, but it does switch to selected color if specified without flashing white. Though we should assume application may not have the need to specify background color, so the whiteness will remain until the client area is filled with content. With DWM forced off, the client area is see-through if the color is not specified right after ShowWindow call. It's not something that DWM should be causing.
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Post by infobot on Sept 3, 2024 19:20:39 GMT -8
Maybe you can help me with the following. When you open a folder then in most themes the folder color is always completely white and that bright light irritates me when seeing it too long. It looks like there is no real good solution for the white open folders. So I always use the high contrast themes which is part of the classic themes. I set all my windows colors to mild gray and the problem is solved. But because the open folder color isn't completely white there is a new problem that arises. In windows 8, 10, 11 there is a white lightning flash when you open a folder window. It is not there in windows xp and windows 7 classic theme. You can only see the white flash when darker colors than white are used in the windows theme! When a folder window is opened then windows 10 starts to build the colors of that window, it starts with white! In xp when you open a folder on the desktop it just starts with the color of the background of the desktop. But in w10 it starts with white. Not everybody notices it because a lot of people use the original theme of windows and in that case almost everything is white. The problem is a bit solved when the windows animations are all on but I don't like those irritating animations. Even now when people start using black themes microsoft hasn't done anything to change this. It seems hard coded in the product. Link to a youtube movie made by someone where you can see that it starts building the window with white. Discussion at microsoft. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/high-contrast-themes-issue/ff386d33-dcfe-4116-8d4a-9c8cd06eb4c0Could you help me solving this problem?
I am using Windows 10 rn and this problem does not happen with the default theme,same for my 11 VM, there is no flashing. You are using the default theme on windows 10 I guess that is the theme you see right after installation of w10. But when opening a folder those default themes have white backgrounds. So you can hardly see if there is a white flash.
But when you use the high contrast themes with a darker background mild gray or even black then you should see the white flash.
To see the white flash you have to use a darker background than white and you have to set the animations to off.
Set animations off: configuration \ system \ advanced system configuration \ performance \ settings \ choose best performance.
Then open folders with the darker background color than white and the white flash can be seen.
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