Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2

dylanwindowclassic
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Trying to keep Classic theme alive as much as possible 👅

Posts: 17
OS: Windows 10 Home 22H2 - Apple Bootcamp / Windows 10 Pro 22H2
Theme: Plum - High Colour (MacBook Pro) / Windows Classic Light Caption visual style (malvinas2)
CPU: MacBook: 2.3GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7 / Solo Windows PC: Intel Core i5 - 1.60GHz, 2 Core
RAM: 16GB
Computer Make/Model: Apple

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8

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Post by dylanwindowclassic on Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8

Hello all! This is an experimental setup that I've done, as I wanted to see how well the Windows Classic theme (or absence of themes) works on Windows 11 23H2. And to my surprise, it was quite painless compared to when I first tried to set it up on Windows 10.

Software:
ExplorerPatcher
OpenShell
Winaero Tweaker
Classic Task Manager
Classic Notepad (because Mircosoft, for some reason, decided to reinvent the wheel)
Some classic Windows 7 stuff, such as the task manager, calculator, sticky notes
Classic (Windows 10) Paint and Wordpad

Here's the Windhawk Mods I used (as Windhawk is an absolte gamechanger):
Classic Theme Transparency Fix by Anixx (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Old Explorer Commands - Aubymori
DWM Unextend Frames - Aubymori (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Remove UWP Titlebars - Erizur
Classic Task Dialog Fix - Aubymori
Classic Taskbar background fix - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Taskbar 3D buttons with extended capability - OrthodoxWin32
Classic Theme Enable with extended compatibility - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Theme Explorer Lite - Anixx
Classic UWP Fix - Ingan121
DWM Ghost Mods - ephemeralViolette
Eradicate Immersive Menus - Aubymori

enderboy
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OS: Windows 7 x64
Theme: 7 basic
CPU: I will find out
RAM: 2 gig
Computer Make/Model: Dell dimension 3100

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 11, 2024 22:17:04 GMT -8

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Post by enderboy on Sept 11, 2024 22:17:04 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8 dylanwindowclassic said:

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Hello all! This is an experimental setup that I've done, as I wanted to see how well the Windows Classic theme (or absence of themes) works on Windows 11 23H2. And to my surprise, it was quite painless compared to when I first tried to set it up on Windows 10.

Software:
ExplorerPatcher
OpenShell
Winaero Tweaker
Classic Task Manager
Classic Notepad (because Mircosoft, for some reason, decided to reinvent the wheel)
Some classic Windows 7 stuff, such as the task manager, calculator, sticky notes
Classic (Windows 10) Paint and Wordpad

Here's the Windhawk Mods I used (as Windhawk is an absolte gamechanger):
Classic Theme Transparency Fix by Anixx (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Old Explorer Commands - Aubymori
DWM Unextend Frames - Aubymori (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Remove UWP Titlebars - Erizur
Classic Task Dialog Fix - Aubymori
Classic Taskbar background fix - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Taskbar 3D buttons with extended capability - OrthodoxWin32
Classic Theme Enable with extended compatibility - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Theme Explorer Lite - Anixx
Classic UWP Fix - Ingan121
DWM Ghost Mods - ephemeralViolette
Eradicate Immersive Menus - Aubymori

Apart from the icons, this is epic!

School, why

dylanwindowclassic
New Member

Trying to keep Classic theme alive as much as possible 👅

Posts: 17
OS: Windows 10 Home 22H2 - Apple Bootcamp / Windows 10 Pro 22H2
Theme: Plum - High Colour (MacBook Pro) / Windows Classic Light Caption visual style (malvinas2)
CPU: MacBook: 2.3GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7 / Solo Windows PC: Intel Core i5 - 1.60GHz, 2 Core
RAM: 16GB
Computer Make/Model: Apple

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 12, 2024 0:00:28 GMT -8 via mobile

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Post by dylanwindowclassic on Sept 12, 2024 0:00:28 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2024 22:17:04 GMT -8 enderboy said:

Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8 dylanwindowclassic said:

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Hello all! This is an experimental setup that I've done, as I wanted to see how well the Windows Classic theme (or absence of themes) works on Windows 11 23H2. And to my surprise, it was quite painless compared to when I first tried to set it up on Windows 10.

Software:
ExplorerPatcher
OpenShell
Winaero Tweaker
Classic Task Manager
Classic Notepad (because Mircosoft, for some reason, decided to reinvent the wheel)
Some classic Windows 7 stuff, such as the task manager, calculator, sticky notes
Classic (Windows 10) Paint and Wordpad

Here's the Windhawk Mods I used (as Windhawk is an absolte gamechanger):
Classic Theme Transparency Fix by Anixx (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Old Explorer Commands - Aubymori
DWM Unextend Frames - Aubymori (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Remove UWP Titlebars - Erizur
Classic Task Dialog Fix - Aubymori
Classic Taskbar background fix - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Taskbar 3D buttons with extended capability - OrthodoxWin32
Classic Theme Enable with extended compatibility - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Theme Explorer Lite - Anixx
Classic UWP Fix - Ingan121
DWM Ghost Mods - ephemeralViolette
Eradicate Immersive Menus - Aubymori

Apart from the icons, this is epic!

Thanks. True about the icons though, the Windows 11 ones stick out like a sore thumb.

anixx
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Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 12, 2024 2:06:38 GMT -8

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Post by anixx on Sept 12, 2024 2:06:38 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8 dylanwindowclassic said:

Classic Theme Transparency Fix by Anixx (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)

You can change the list of affected processes without forking.

anixx
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Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 12, 2024 2:12:11 GMT -8

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Post by anixx on Sept 12, 2024 2:12:11 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2024 14:48:54 GMT -8 dylanwindowclassic said:

Here's the Windhawk Mods I used (as Windhawk is an absolte gamechanger):
Classic Theme Transparency Fix by Anixx (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Old Explorer Commands - Aubymori
DWM Unextend Frames - Aubymori (forked to exclude Vivaldi to avoid duplicate titlebar)
Remove UWP Titlebars - Erizur
Classic Task Dialog Fix - Aubymori
Classic Taskbar background fix - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Taskbar 3D buttons with extended capability - OrthodoxWin32
Classic Theme Enable with extended compatibility - Roland Pihlakas
Classic Theme Explorer Lite - Anixx
Classic UWP Fix - Ingan121
DWM Ghost Mods - ephemeralViolette
Eradicate Immersive Menus - Aubymori

DWM Unextend Frames is not needed for Classic theme if you use Classic Theme Transparency Fix.

But you have missed one of the most important mods for 23H2: Explorerframe fixes for Win11 22H2+

windhawk.net/mods/explorerframe-fixes-for-win11-22h2plus

Don't forget to enable all options in this mod's settings.

dylanwindowclassic
New Member

Trying to keep Classic theme alive as much as possible 👅

Posts: 17
OS: Windows 10 Home 22H2 - Apple Bootcamp / Windows 10 Pro 22H2
Theme: Plum - High Colour (MacBook Pro) / Windows Classic Light Caption visual style (malvinas2)
CPU: MacBook: 2.3GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7 / Solo Windows PC: Intel Core i5 - 1.60GHz, 2 Core
RAM: 16GB
Computer Make/Model: Apple

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 12, 2024 3:06:57 GMT -8

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Post by dylanwindowclassic on Sept 12, 2024 3:06:57 GMT -8

I've added the explorer frames mod and it seems to have resolved that one issue where I was getting a black explorer window.
Also, I've figured out how to add Vivaldi to exclude list using the original mod, which now works as expected.

OrthodoxWin32
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OS: Windows 10 21H2 with File explorer and PowerPro - Debian 10 Buster with Trinity desktop environment
Theme: Classic theme in Windows - CDE/Motif theme in Debian
CPU: Intel Core i5-8265U
RAM: 8,00 Go

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 13, 2024 1:03:25 GMT -8

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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Sept 13, 2024 1:03:25 GMT -8

Sept 12, 2024 2:12:11 GMT -8 anixx said:

DWM Unextend Frames is not needed for Classic theme if you use Classic Theme Transparency Fix.

But you have missed one of the most important mods for 23H2: Explorerframe fixes for Win11 22H2+

windhawk.net/mods/explorerframe-fixes-for-win11-22h2plus

Don't forget to enable all options in this mod's settings.

It is also possible to not use Classic Theme Transparency FIx, and use DWM Unextend Frame.

ThemeSwitcherScipts : github.com/OrthodoxWindows/ThemeSwitcherScripts
Internet Archive : archive.org/details/@orthodoxwin32

anixx
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Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 13, 2024 1:52:01 GMT -8

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Post by anixx on Sept 13, 2024 1:52:01 GMT -8

Sept 13, 2024 1:03:25 GMT -8 OrthodoxWin32 said:

Sept 12, 2024 2:12:11 GMT -8 anixx said:

DWM Unextend Frames is not needed for Classic theme if you use Classic Theme Transparency Fix.

But you have missed one of the most important mods for 23H2: Explorerframe fixes for Win11 22H2+

windhawk.net/mods/explorerframe-fixes-for-win11-22h2plus

Don't forget to enable all options in this mod's settings.

It is also possible to not use Classic Theme Transparency FIx, and use DWM Unextend Frame.

Which includes unnneeded for classic theme things things and pointer arithmetic.

Last Edit: Sept 13, 2024 1:52:20 GMT -8 by anixx

OrthodoxWin32
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OS: Windows 10 21H2 with File explorer and PowerPro - Debian 10 Buster with Trinity desktop environment
Theme: Classic theme in Windows - CDE/Motif theme in Debian
CPU: Intel Core i5-8265U
RAM: 8,00 Go

Experimenting with Windows 11 23H2 Sept 13, 2024 3:50:05 GMT -8

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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Sept 13, 2024 3:50:05 GMT -8

Sept 13, 2024 1:52:01 GMT -8 anixx said:

Which includes unnneeded for classic theme things things and pointer arithmetic.

Yes, but DWM Unextend Frame is still usable with the classic theme. I specify this, if a user who alternately uses the classic and basic theme.

ThemeSwitcherScipts : github.com/OrthodoxWindows/ThemeSwitcherScripts
Internet Archive : archive.org/details/@orthodoxwin32