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Post by powerplayer on Nov 1, 2018 8:57:22 GMT -8
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 4, 2018 3:17:06 GMT -8
...why are you so desperate to find another Taskbar solution?
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Post by powerplayer on Nov 4, 2018 6:41:38 GMT -8
we still dont have a complete independent explorer with taskbar we are doing basically is patching everything with classicthemea startisback classicshell sure it works now but in the future maybe we need some complete replacement.
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 5, 2018 8:41:17 GMT -8
we still dont have a complete independent explorer with taskbar we are doing basically is patching everything with classicthemea startisback classicshell sure it works now but in the future maybe we need some complete replacement. >Start9 |
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Post by powerplayer on Nov 5, 2018 15:47:55 GMT -8
Hmmm Can the startisback style theme + classicshell work on start9? I got an idea make the themes point and click for theming similar to how you change icons in classicshell that way the theming stuff only need to stay in a folder and people could theme things to infinity except with pics instead of icons .
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Post by R.O.B. on Nov 6, 2018 12:26:58 GMT -8
Hmmm Can the startisback style theme + classicshell work on start9? No, neither the StartIsBack theme nor Classic Shell will work with Start9, and that's because it won't need them. Since Start9 aims to be a complete replacement for Explorer, it will have its own implementations for such features. If you really want to use Classic Shell with it, you would likely need to possess some programming knowledge. But again, Start9 will be able to do everything Classic Shell can do, and more. A full replacement for Explorer is becoming more and more of a necessity, especially with Windows 10’s constant changes with each new update. As of now, Start9 is easily the best bet we have to address this. |
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Post by The Jackal on Nov 6, 2018 13:31:31 GMT -8
So it's a new shell now? That's great news, esp after how Win 10 v1809 has basically stripped out most stuff.
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Post by powerplayer on Nov 8, 2018 16:33:13 GMT -8
Hmmm Can the startisback style theme + classicshell work on start9? No, neither the StartIsBack theme nor Classic Shell will work with Start9, and that's because it won't need them. Since Start9 aims to be a complete replacement for Explorer, it will have its own implementations for such features. If you really want to use Classic Shell with it, you would likely need to possess some programming knowledge. But again, Start9 will be able to do everything Classic Shell can do, and more. A full replacement for Explorer is becoming more and more of a necessity, especially with Windows 10’s constant changes with each new update. As of now, Start9 is easily the best bet we have to address this. Sounds amazing if i wanted to make the win2k style start menu i could have it by doing similar things like with classicshell  |
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 8, 2018 18:29:07 GMT -8
Speaking of Start9, I figured I may as well throw this out there...  Yes, this is Windows 10. Yes, the Classic Theme is active. No, Explorer is not running. And yes, the Classic Theme is applied to the Superbar shown below. My point being that the Text shows up just fine  (Actual Classic Theme skin coming soon™, have some Luna for now I guess) |
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Post by NovaDelta on Nov 8, 2018 18:48:17 GMT -8
Wonder what the taskbar would look like small and without font smoothing
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 9, 2018 10:23:35 GMT -8
I'll get back to you on that once the Small icons mode exists. In the meantime, here, have a Window list flyout:  |
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Post by s34642542 on Nov 9, 2018 11:04:01 GMT -8
Is it possible for someone other than the devs to use Start9 yet? I downloaded the zip from the Github page but don't have a clue what to do with any of it...
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 9, 2018 11:45:55 GMT -8
Is it possible for someone other than the devs to use Start9 yet? Not yet. Embarrassingly, I'd hesitate to even say it's possible for us to use it yet, given how incomplete it is. I downloaded the zip from the Github page but don't have a clue what to do with any of it... That's because you've got part of the source code there. For the moment, we're still trying to sort some stuff out regarding getting the rest of the source code onto GitHub. Even once we have the entire current source code up, it - atleast for the moment - won't be of much use unless you're planning on helping out. This is still early in development. |
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Post by powerplayer on Nov 25, 2018 12:46:07 GMT -8
Um could you make a small mod to start9 that could possibly bring back the removed shellstyle.dll function in windows 10 rs5? Like just include the shellstyle function and the rest will be taken care of with classic3.msstyles startisback and classicthemea.exe |
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 25, 2018 16:47:54 GMT -8
Um could you make a small mod to start9 that could possibly bring back the removed shellstyle.dll function in windows 10 rs5? No, if you knew what Start9 is, you wouldn't be asking for that, since you'd understand how pointless it is. Like just include the shellstyle function To clarify, that's like going to Adobe and asking them to add layers to Microsoft Paint in the next version of Photoshop. and the rest will be taken care of with classic3.msstyles startisback ...you really don't even know what Start9 is, do you? and classicthemea.exe  Well yeah, you're still going to need that one. |
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Post by 6sicsix on Nov 26, 2018 23:48:19 GMT -8
Isn't shellstyle.dll needed for explorer windows?
How would start9 get around that?
I don't know how start9 works as I've never used it.
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 27, 2018 18:31:17 GMT -8
Isn't shellstyle.dll needed for explorer windows? Yes How would start9 get around that? Easy: it's not Explorer, nor is it dependent on or built around Explorer. I don't know how start9 works as I've never used it. It's a replacement shell. The best way I can think to describe it is as a build-your-own-shell kit of sorts. The metaphor is two-fold: 1. As a user, you can select basically any collection of Modules (GUI components, such as a Taskbar, an App Drawer, etc.) you can find, and snap them together however you want. 2. As a Module developer, you can use our libraries to interact with the OS's feature set and other Modules, so you don't have to worry about communication or undocumented APIs breaking stuff. |
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Post by powerplayer on Nov 27, 2018 20:42:28 GMT -8
i mean add the replacement and make it work just for explorer processes so that it wont open grey windows but open proper classic ones like a light version of the whole thing sorta like classicthemea.exe but for explorer , im still covered by classicshell and startisback but the explorer is broken thx to update.
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Post by Splitwirez on Nov 28, 2018 8:35:52 GMT -8
i mean add the replacement and make it work just for explorer processes so that it wont open grey windows but open proper classic ones like a light version of the whole thing sorta like classicthemea.exe but for explorer , im still covered by classicshell and startisback but the explorer is broken thx to update. So, for sake of comparison, you'd beg Adobe to add layers to paint.NET and continue using your paint.NET Alpha Mask addon, rather than just using Photoshop since it has all of the features you've mangled paint.NET to have? |
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Post by powerplayer on Dec 11, 2018 16:53:21 GMT -8
Easy: it's not Explorer, nor is it dependent on or built around Explorer. So if i try to a save as in notepad photoshop or mspaint in start9 browsing would not work because it requires explorer for that? Otherwise i like the idea about loading the modules needed. Technically speaking a module to mimic classicshell functionality such as change startmenu icons and add remove items from startmenu can be made right? |
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