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Post by The Jackal on Jul 31, 2019 14:49:46 GMT -8
This is what I want to change: If I can change the "Computer" text to something else and the icon from the registry, please let me know how.
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Post by The Jackal on Aug 11, 2019 9:24:06 GMT -8
Welp, I figured how to do it and got it working...on Windows XP, that is: Tried repeating it on a VM of Windows 10 1903, and...it bricked the system. I hate W10 so much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 10:27:51 GMT -8
Let me guess: it was in shell32.dll, and since Windows 10 is what you called 'My Computer' in that XP machine, it probably decided "Lol no, that's not gonna happen" and killed itself?
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Post by The Jackal on Aug 11, 2019 11:19:03 GMT -8
Let me guess: it was in shell32.dll, and since Windows 10 is what you called 'My Computer' in that XP machine, it probably decided "Lol no, that's not gonna happen" and killed itself? Actually I never touched any dlls, all done from the registry. I'm suspecting it's added "security" MS have put in that causes W10 to freak out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 11:21:48 GMT -8
Let me guess: it was in shell32.dll, and since Windows 10 is what you called 'My Computer' in that XP machine, it probably decided "Lol no, that's not gonna happen" and killed itself? Actually I never touched any dlls, all done from the registry. I'm suspecting it's added "security" MS have put in that causes W10 to freak out. Sounds like either lazy coding (in that changing one small string causes it to glitch out), or they really, really hate users who want to tinker with their systems. Then again, the inability to use the Classic Theme since Windows 8 RTM without hacking and using workarounds was enough of a stab in the back as it is, and merely the beginning of the end. It also sucks that Windows 10 is a volatile target, in that something that works on build X may not work on build X+1...
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Post by The Jackal on Aug 14, 2019 10:12:02 GMT -8
Actually I never touched any dlls, all done from the registry. I'm suspecting it's added "security" MS have put in that causes W10 to freak out. Sounds like either lazy coding (in that changing one small string causes it to glitch out), or they really, really hate users who want to tinker with their systems. Then again, the inability to use the Classic Theme since Windows 8 RTM without hacking and using workarounds was enough of a stab in the back as it is, and merely the beginning of the end. It also sucks that Windows 10 is a volatile target, in that something that works on build X may not work on build X+1... Agreed. A little update, but a funny one. Further research, I stumbled upon this site. A very good read it is too. Pre-Windows XP it was possible to change the status bar icon and text straight from the registry, much easily, and it actually worked without issue (unlike with W10). Here's what I managed do in Windows 98: There's even a program someone whipped up that makes the changes for you without you needing to go into the registry, but it won't allow you to change the icon past WXP (Looks like the author abandoned the project, but they did release the source code for it). OFC, I tried this (from the registry and using the program) doing this in W10, and it doesn't work anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 11:24:15 GMT -8
Sounds like either lazy coding (in that changing one small string causes it to glitch out), or they really, really hate users who want to tinker with their systems. Then again, the inability to use the Classic Theme since Windows 8 RTM without hacking and using workarounds was enough of a stab in the back as it is, and merely the beginning of the end. It also sucks that Windows 10 is a volatile target, in that something that works on build X may not work on build X+1... Agreed. A little update, but a funny one. Further research, I stumbled upon this site. A very good read it is too. Pre-Windows XP it was possible to change the status bar icon and text straight from the registry, much easily, and it actually worked without issue (unlike with W10). Here's what I managed do in Windows 98: There's even a program someone whipped up that makes the changes for you without you needing to go into the registry, but it won't allow you to change the icon past WXP (Looks like the author abandoned the project, but they did release the source code for it). OFC, I tried this (from the registry and using the program) doing this in W10, and it doesn't work anymore. Now that I come to think of it, Microsoft rewrote Explorer's UI almost entirely for Vista. maybe that's why it does work on everything up to XP but not 10. Have you tried this in a Vista or later VM? If it doesn't work in Vista/7/8(.1), then it seems they did something that maybe rendered this impossible?
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Post by The Jackal on Aug 14, 2019 11:57:02 GMT -8
^ I used to have a Vista VM, but deleted for space a while back. I'll check it out when I can. I don't have anything later than XP installed atm.
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Post by crabsynth on Aug 24, 2019 5:26:19 GMT -8
As far as I know, the only solution I know is to disable the icon in the Classic Shell explorer settings completely. Just disable the 'Show Zone' checkbox.
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Post by The Jackal on Aug 24, 2019 11:06:08 GMT -8
As far as I know, the only solution I know is to disable the icon in the Classic Shell explorer settings together. Just disable the 'Show Zone' checkbox. Thank you, I've toggled that and it looks much better now. I would still like to know how to change the icon and text, but for now, this is a good stopgap. More information regarding why it's no longer possible to change it in the registry: starting with Internet Explorer 9, MS removed the Zone info from the status bar. I also discovering a thread on the old Classic Shell forums where Ivo (the main dev) says that Classic Explorer draws it's icon + text from some string, and he had no desire to allow the option to customize it, which is a shame to say the least. So, it comes down to two possible solutions now: 1. Beg Ask the Open Shell to consider implementing such a feature or 2. Use AHK to override that part of the status bar.
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Post by travis on Dec 5, 2020 6:20:44 GMT -8
Bump but CSE status Bar does uses the icon from shell32.dll, as seen here. I fired up a suggestion in the Open-Shell discord to easily change this part of this status bar.
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Post by The Jackal on Dec 5, 2020 10:34:19 GMT -8
Bump but CSE status Bar does uses the icon from shell32.dll, as seen here. I fired up a suggestion in the Open-Shell discord to easily change this part of this status bar. Yeah, changing the icon via Shell32 is the only way to do it on W8/10. On older versions of Windows (XP and below) you could just change some registry setting and have the name and icon as anything you want.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 11:28:25 GMT -8
It's possible to change the icon on Win10 1903+ and Win11 by modifying shell32.dll.mun in C:\Windows\SystemResources.
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Post by fluttershy on Apr 15, 2022 2:28:07 GMT -8
Bump but CSE status Bar does uses the icon from shell32.dll, as seen here. I fired up a suggestion in the Open-Shell discord to easily change this part of this status bar. Yeah, changing the icon via Shell32 is the only way to do it on W8/10. On older versions of Windows (XP and below) you could just change some registry setting and have the name and icon as anything you want. Sorry for bumping the old post, but everytime I've tried to change the Icon in Shell32 and replace it with my modified Shell32, regardless of if I take ownership or not my install will BSOD on boot unless I replace it back with the old file, not sure how to fix it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 15:03:29 GMT -8
Yeah, changing the icon via Shell32 is the only way to do it on W8/10. On older versions of Windows (XP and below) you could just change some registry setting and have the name and icon as anything you want. Sorry for bumping the old post, but everytime I've tried to change the Icon in Shell32 and replace it with my modified Shell32, regardless of if I take ownership or not my install will BSOD on boot unless I replace it back with the old file, not sure how to fix it Shell32.dll is signed so modifying it will prevent Windows from booting.
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Post by fluttershy on Apr 17, 2022 0:09:00 GMT -8
Sorry for bumping the old post, but everytime I've tried to change the Icon in Shell32 and replace it with my modified Shell32, regardless of if I take ownership or not my install will BSOD on boot unless I replace it back with the old file, not sure how to fix it Shell32.dll is signed so modifying it will prevent Windows from booting. So, you're saying it's not possible to do right or have I understood wrong, sorry to be a pain as its the only thing in my explorer setup that doesn't look right and would love to change it haha
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 17, 2022 1:59:11 GMT -8
Shell32.dll is signed so modifying it will prevent Windows from booting. So, you're saying it's not possible to do right or have I understood wrong, sorry to be a pain as its the only thing in my explorer setup that doesn't look right and would love to change it haha Starting from 1903, it is possible to change the Shell32.dll icons in the .MUI files (which corresponds to the language of the system).
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Post by The Jackal on Apr 25, 2022 12:58:26 GMT -8
Yeah, if you're on a fairly newish build of '10 (or 11) then you can do what Orthodox said.
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