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Post by leet on Oct 4, 2019 10:59:48 GMT -8
Current state of things (r1 - Release 1):
Required:done Fix installation of StartIsBack and Open Shell done Fix auto-launch enabling of classic taskbar
New features:
bonus Remembers last option on boot-up (enabled/disabled) done Add an option to increase taskbar loadtime done Add Windows 8+ support done Add T-Clock done Add Folder Options X done Remove ribbon Add RibbonDisabler 4.0 done Add 3D borders by editing UserPreferenceMask done Remove Defender checks, let the user just add exceptions done Add an option to restore WindowMetrics to default so that after disabling classic theme windows stop looking odd
Need help:
helpme Remove folderband See previous post why this is on hold
I'm really happy about how the program functions now. In the new screenshot I put into the main post you can see what you can do in 5 minutes (This was done on my laptop which is freshly installed)
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Post by anixx on Oct 4, 2019 22:17:05 GMT -8
If you added the 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, then you possibly should restore the classic (Win95-XP) icon spacing in the tray. The reg file with the 7+TT settings I already posted in this thread.
In Folder Options X the 1st and 3rd options should be enabled for the most Classic look.
I also see that something wrong with the color of the Task Manager's menu bar. Possibly you should enable the standard Win2000 scheme as a default? Your screenshot also has non-standard windowmetrics for a classic theme (the scrollbar is too small).
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Post by anixx on Oct 4, 2019 22:52:45 GMT -8
> KNOWN ISSUES (r1):
I think you should change or remove the number
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Souper
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OS: Manjaro | Windows 10 (2021)
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Post by Souper on Oct 5, 2019 2:21:27 GMT -8
Works like a charm so far, although my only problem with it right now is that the "install" (or enable on login) option doesn't function while on a standard account. Just having a UAC prompt appear is good enough for me.
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 3:43:09 GMT -8
I think as far as configuring those extra utilities: It's up to the user to decide what they prefer.
The WindowMetrics and color of the menu bar are because of the "Storm (VGA)" theme, with normal "Windows Standard" it looks perfect. Not enabling a theme by default because configuring is up to the user.
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 3:45:07 GMT -8
Works like a charm so far, although my only problem with it right now is that the "install" (or enable on login) option doesn't function while on a standard account. Just having a UAC prompt appear is good enough for me. That bug is fixed in the version r1 but I'm still waiting for some input from powerplayer |
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 3:51:35 GMT -8
- First Release version!
- Fix installation of StartIsBack and Open Shell
- Fix auto-launch
- Fix enabling of classic taskbar
- Re-add compatibility message
- Remembers last option on boot-up (enabled/disabled)
- Added an option to increase taskbar loadtime in order to fix skinny taskbar bug
- Added Windows 8/8.1 support
- Added T-Clock (might be removed as I don't see how it has anything to do with Classic Theme)
- Added Folder Options X
- Added RibbonDisabler
- Added 3D borders
- Removed Defender checks, you now have to add an exception to Defender
- Added an option to restore WindowMetrics to default so that after disabling classic theme windows stop looking odd
- Edited manifest so it says Simple Classic Theme instead of WindowsFormsApp2
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Post by anixx on Oct 5, 2019 4:26:55 GMT -8
> I think as far as configuring those extra utilities: It's up to the user to decide what they prefer.
Of course, but I think the defaults should be as close to the classic behavior (Win95-XP) as possible. Also, this tray spacing option is hidden in the registry, so the user may have no idea it exists. If you make standard window metrics by default, it is totally logical that tray spacing also should be brought to classic size.
Alternatively, you may add next to each utility's install button a button to import classic settings for that utility into registry.
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Post by anixx on Oct 5, 2019 4:33:34 GMT -8
By the way, do you install the classic system configuration (with autostart options)? If so, do you install it in the same way as the classic task manager (using debug key) so that it could be run without UAC prompt and using the old start menu shortcuts?
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 4:56:32 GMT -8
It's included in Classic Start Manager. I have no idea whats going when it installs because its just a setup I found online and I just run it with the /s tag.
But yes, the task maanger and system ocnfiguration run without UAC and using old start menu shortcuts.
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 5:07:32 GMT -8
> I think as far as configuring those extra utilities: It's up to the user to decide what they prefer. Of course, but I think the defaults should be as close to the classic behavior (Win95-XP) as possible. Also, this tray spacing option is hidden in the registry, so the user may have no idea it exists. If you make standard window metrics by default, it is totally logical that tray spacing also should be brought to classic size. Alternatively, you may add next to each utility's install button a button to import classic settings for that utility into registry. I'm planning on doing to things: Making a guide Making a button that configures EVERYTHING
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Souper
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OS: Manjaro | Windows 10 (2021)
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Post by Souper on Oct 5, 2019 14:50:48 GMT -8
I probably should've mentioned this in my previous post, but the selected scheme appears to reset to the default Aero scheme when on a standard account as well. Side effect of running it as admin?
Also, the /configure argument still shows the "Windows Defender" prompt.
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Post by leet on Oct 5, 2019 15:04:34 GMT -8
What do you mean by "standard account"?
I indeed forgot about the /configure argument and this will be fixed.
I'll probably also add a reg to the main post for disabling Defender via registry.
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Souper
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Post by Souper on Oct 5, 2019 19:00:44 GMT -8
By "standard account", I'm talking about an account without administrator permissions. Currently, this program prompts the user to enter in an admin's password (UAC) in order to have the required permissions to modify the system. In doing this, deskn.cpl might be reading and saving schemes from the admin account instead of the currently used account, causing Windows to not be able to reapply the last used scheme due to differing registry.
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Post by chartu on Oct 5, 2019 20:10:37 GMT -8
> I think as far as configuring those extra utilities: It's up to the user to decide what they prefer. Of course, but I think the defaults should be as close to the classic behavior (Win95-XP) as possible. Also, this tray spacing option is hidden in the registry, so the user may have no idea it exists. If you make standard window metrics by default, it is totally logical that tray spacing also should be brought to classic size. Alternatively, you may add next to each utility's install button a button to import classic settings for that utility into registry. I'm planning on doing to things: Making a guide Making a button that configures EVERYTHING
Thanks, I very much appreciate this. |
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Post by leet on Oct 6, 2019 2:20:13 GMT -8
By "standard account", I'm talking about an account without administrator permissions. Currently, this program prompts the user to enter in an admin's password (UAC) in order to have the required permissions to modify the system. In doing this, deskn.cpl might be reading and saving schemes from the admin account instead of the currently used account, causing Windows to not be able to reapply the last used scheme due to differing registry. No, logging in as the admin account at the UAC only elevates the program to administrative privileges, but keeps the environment of the standard account. |
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Post by leet on Oct 6, 2019 12:14:53 GMT -8
- Fixed the bug where parts of the taskbar would be transparent everytime the theme was enabled
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Post by powerplayer on Oct 6, 2019 13:45:04 GMT -8
New bug 1903 almost all options except install required stuff are now greyed out the classic taskbar thing is on but wont turn off but i had startisback installed now if i rightclick the start then my startmenu freezes up and wont obey my commands not even win + r work , the classictheme has no respect for my settings it makes a blank taskbar it is very buggy can you make an complete uninstaller for all traces of the program in memory? i'd hate to reinstall at this stage but im a loyal beta tester and i like your idea about adding all the needed tools in one place .
Oh yea and your theme enables window animation (i hate those)
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Post by leet on Oct 6, 2019 23:14:26 GMT -8
Thats correct. After installing StartIsBack with the utility you have to restart it in order to use the options. About uninstalling, you just have to remove the following and files: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\sct.cmd C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\SimpleClassicTheme.exe which you can just make into a batch file: @echo off del C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\sct.cmd del C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\SimpleClassicTheme.exe You also have to remove OpenShell and StartIsBack++. To be sure you can also remove the following reg key: HKCU\Software\SimpleClassicTheme At this point the application would have no knowledge that it has ever been installed on the system. Also, can you give me a way to reproduce it next time? This time I knew but if it was a bug that I didn't know about, a way to reproduce would be nice  . |
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Post by leet on Oct 7, 2019 11:37:19 GMT -8
- Fixed the bug where UI would softlock itself after install
- Now disables window animations when you enable Classic Theme
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