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Post by andrewpssp on Jun 13, 2022 17:57:32 GMT -8
It's not so bad.. I can't see it normally on my high DPI screen anyway!  |
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Post by nonameneeded on Jun 16, 2022 16:58:30 GMT -8
I really appreciate your effort to create a simple tool to change all the settings and patch all the files necessary for a classic theme to work on Windows 10 automatically.
BUT I'm afraid it's nothing but a big mess.
On Win10 32Bit you need to enable the classic theme at least 3 times (i.e. press the "enable" button 3 times) otherwise only some windows use the classic theme, the rest still uses the Windows 10 theme.
If you choose to have your tool start with Windows, it will not really apply any settings, except for maybe the taskbar (which doesn't look very classic-like).
Even if you choose NOT to start SCT with Windows, it will still start with Windows (but it won't apply the classic theme either, in this case, you wouldn't expect that anyway, of course).
Some of the ahk files seem to work, some others don't.
When the classic theme is enabled there are no working context menus which is of course completely inacceptable. And yes, I know it's not your fault, it's just that no one needs a classic theme with no context menus, so on 32Bit Windows it's completely useless.
So I've installed Win10 64Bit on a virtual machine and, lo and behold, it doesn't seem to work there much better.
It needs Net Framework, which I had to install (I'm not a big fan) but even though the installation was successful, it doesn't recognize net framework and therefore still complains about net framework missing.
Seemingly, without net framework (even though it's there) all it does is to apply the classic theme to itsself (the sct window).
Other than that it's useless.
Please don't get me wrong, as I said, I really appreciate your effort and also that you share what you've created with everybody for free, but as of now, your tool isn't as useful as I hoped it would be.
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Post by leet on Jun 23, 2022 10:16:24 GMT -8
nonameneeded Sorry for the late response: This has nothing to do with SCT. From the moment you enable Classic Theme, normal Aero gets disabled. But any programs that already have Aero loaded will keep using Aero because they already have access to the ThemeSection handle. Any new programs opened will not have access to this handle, therefore falling back to Classic Theme. The issue you had was because you didn't restart all programs, which made them still display Aero. This is true for both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows. This sounds like you had SCT configured to start with Windows. From the moment you configure SCT to do that, it needs to be completely uninstalled before it will stop doing that. This is indeed a stupid limitation and will be addressed in SCT 1.7. AHK has never been great in SCT and the scripts used don't work that well. AHK files will be removed in SCT 1.7, in favour of a C++ replacement that'll be made somewhere in the (far) future. SCT itself only requires .NET Framework 4.8, which is included in Windows 10 by default. SCT Taskbar and RetroBar on the other hand need .NET Core 3.1 and .NET 5.0 respectively. This is one of the biggest made mistakes with SCT: You do not need to install .NET Framework, but rather the .NET Desktop Runtime. I'm still tinkering with ways to automatically install this to avoid confusion on requirements, but Microsoft's URL scheme for .NET is a bit of a mess and I still need to figure out how it exactly works. This probably also is the issue that you don't restart all programs. SCT can't apply Classic Theme to a window that is using Aero, because it cannot remove existing handles to a memory section. Therefore this issue will always exists, which is why SCT offers functionality to run at boot.
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Post by nonameneeded on Jun 23, 2022 11:23:37 GMT -8
You're right. You need to install Net Framework SDK, not the normal net framework stuff. Anyway, I've now installed Win10 64bit in a virtual machine and even though I couldn't apply the ExplorerPatcher stuff from within SCT (the necessary files just weren't there even though I installed them, at least, that's what I thought) I was able to install explorerpatcher manually and reactivate the context menus. None of the taskbars seem to work, though. This is how the simple classic taskbar looks like:
(oh ok, it would need some additional net framework stuff...)
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Post by kristibek512 on Jun 24, 2022 15:40:32 GMT -8
Here's a little look at it working in action: youtu.be/uG5x3tiFmeAThis doesn't showcase the multi-user part because, A: I haven't made it yet and B: it's hard to show that in a video. The multi-user part can easily be showcased if you use a virtual machine (google Virtualbox) and start recording software on your host (not the virtual machine) |
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Post by user2k on Jul 11, 2022 1:53:38 GMT -8
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Post by daemonspudguy on Jul 23, 2022 9:14:38 GMT -8
Wrong thread. Go make a new one. |
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Post by daemonspudguy on Jul 25, 2022 16:12:58 GMT -8
So, SCT crashes without fail whenever told to download FEH, ExplorerPatcher, and RetroBar.
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Post by bunnyboy29 on Aug 11, 2022 8:25:19 GMT -8
How long is it supposed to take to install? It's been about 30 minutes and all I see is this:  |
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Sophomore Member
UWP stands for unwanted pile of trash
Posts: 167
OS: Windows 11 & Windows 10 LTSC 2021
Theme: Classic Theme on Windows 10 LTSC host and micaforeveryone with a custom theme on 11 host
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U with 4 Cores
RAM: 8GB of DDR4 ram
GPU: AMD Raedon Vega 8 Graphics
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Post by craft on Aug 11, 2022 9:45:29 GMT -8
How long is it supposed to take to install? It's been about 30 minutes and all I see is this: The installer is broken click no if it asks run automated setup |
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Post by RandomWalker on Aug 11, 2022 18:55:12 GMT -8
After installing/uninstalling SimpleClassicTheme, my Ctrl-Alt-Del and sign in screen accent color is stuck at default blue. Any fix for this? Running Windows 10 build 19045.1889.
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Post by bunnyboy29 on Aug 13, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -8
How long is it supposed to take to install? It's been about 30 minutes and all I see is this: The installer is broken click no if it asks run automated setup Turns out it was caused by Microsoft Defender, however I can't seem to fully install this. When I go to configure colors and change it to the Windows 98 Border style or anything in there for that matter it just locks up and I have to end the task. I cannot proceed any further on Windows 11 21H2 |
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craft
Sophomore Member
UWP stands for unwanted pile of trash
Posts: 167
OS: Windows 11 & Windows 10 LTSC 2021
Theme: Classic Theme on Windows 10 LTSC host and micaforeveryone with a custom theme on 11 host
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U with 4 Cores
RAM: 8GB of DDR4 ram
GPU: AMD Raedon Vega 8 Graphics
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Post by craft on Aug 14, 2022 0:20:45 GMT -8
The installer is broken click no if it asks run automated setup Turns out it was caused by Microsoft Defender, however I can't seem to fully install this. When I go to configure colors and change it to the Windows 98 Border style or anything in there for that matter it just locks up and I have to end the task. I cannot proceed any further on Windows 11 21H2 I know about this issue sadly it happens because of feature updates no known fix for this although you can modify the registry to change colors |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 14, 2022 0:40:05 GMT -8
Turns out it was caused by Microsoft Defender, however I can't seem to fully install this. When I go to configure colors and change it to the Windows 98 Border style or anything in there for that matter it just locks up and I have to end the task. I cannot proceed any further on Windows 11 21H2 In this case, disable Windows Defender during the installation. |
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Post by bunnyboy29 on Aug 14, 2022 19:33:09 GMT -8
Turns out it was caused by Microsoft Defender, however I can't seem to fully install this. When I go to configure colors and change it to the Windows 98 Border style or anything in there for that matter it just locks up and I have to end the task. I cannot proceed any further on Windows 11 21H2 In this case, disable Windows Defender during the installation. Still doesn't work, I am gonna have to wait for an update. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 15, 2022 4:38:05 GMT -8
In this case, disable Windows Defender during the installation. Still doesn't work, I am gonna have to wait for an update. What exactly isn't working ? |
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Post by bunnyboy29 on Aug 15, 2022 19:16:38 GMT -8
Still doesn't work, I am gonna have to wait for an update. What exactly isn't working ? I get that context menu bug and I cannot even get the borders and stuff to apply at all. Like when I hit Configure Colors and apply Windows Classic or anything really SCT freezes and I have to force end it. Also the Ribbon turns white and the forward back buttons disappear. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 16, 2022 1:36:45 GMT -8
What exactly isn't working ? I get that context menu bug and I cannot even get the borders and stuff to apply at all. Like when I hit Configure Colors and apply Windows Classic or anything really SCT freezes and I have to force end it. Also the Ribbon turns white and the forward back buttons disappear. These are known issues. The context menus issue can be solved by using ExplorerPatcher : github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcherAfter installing it, uncheck the Use immersive menus when displaying Windows 10 context menus box in the File Explorer section, and uncheck the Skin taskbar and tray pop-up menus box in the System tray section. For the color\metric configuration window issue, use WinPaletter to configure colors, NoMeiroUI to configure fonts, and ReMetric to configure window metrics instead. github.com/Abdelrhman-AK/WinPalettergithub.com/Tatsu-syo/noMeiryoUIgithub.com/Tatsu-syo/ReMetricsFinally, for the ribbon issue, use RibbonDisabler to disable it; this tool is included in SCT. Once the ribbon is disabled, remember to log of into your session. |
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Post by bunnyboy29 on Aug 17, 2022 15:53:47 GMT -8
I get that context menu bug and I cannot even get the borders and stuff to apply at all. Like when I hit Configure Colors and apply Windows Classic or anything really SCT freezes and I have to force end it. Also the Ribbon turns white and the forward back buttons disappear. These are known issues. The context menus issue can be solved by using ExplorerPatcher : github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcherAfter installing it, uncheck the Use immersive menus when displaying Windows 10 context menus box in the File Explorer section, and uncheck the Skin taskbar and tray pop-up menus box in the System tray section. For the color\metric configuration window issue, use WinPaletter to configure colors, NoMeiroUI to configure fonts, and ReMetric to configure window metrics instead. github.com/Abdelrhman-AK/WinPalettergithub.com/Tatsu-syo/noMeiryoUIgithub.com/Tatsu-syo/ReMetricsFinally, for the ribbon issue, use RibbonDisabler to disable it; this tool is included in SCT. Once the ribbon is disabled, remember to log of into your session. Win Paletter refuses to work, it changes the colors but that is all. I am convinced the latest version of Windows 10 and Windows 11(Which I am on) Is not configured to be customized anymore. Is it even worth downgrading to 10? I am so sick of this stuff not working. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 17, 2022 23:56:24 GMT -8
These are known issues. The context menus issue can be solved by using ExplorerPatcher : github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcherAfter installing it, uncheck the Use immersive menus when displaying Windows 10 context menus box in the File Explorer section, and uncheck the Skin taskbar and tray pop-up menus box in the System tray section. For the color\metric configuration window issue, use WinPaletter to configure colors, NoMeiroUI to configure fonts, and ReMetric to configure window metrics instead. github.com/Abdelrhman-AK/WinPalettergithub.com/Tatsu-syo/noMeiryoUIgithub.com/Tatsu-syo/ReMetricsFinally, for the ribbon issue, use RibbonDisabler to disable it; this tool is included in SCT. Once the ribbon is disabled, remember to log of into your session. Win Paletter refuses to work, it changes the colors but that is all. I am convinced the latest version of Windows 10 and Windows 11(Which I am on) Is not configured to be customized anymore. Is it even worth downgrading to 10? I am so sick of this stuff not working. This is normal, because the purpose of WinPaletter is only to change colors. Are you using the correct version ? github.com/Abdelrhman-AK/WinPaletter/releases/tag/v1.0.4.1For fonts and window metrics, I've given you the tools to use (noMeiryoUI and ReMetric). |
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