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Post by anixx on Jun 23, 2021 9:31:24 GMT -8
People successfully replace Windows 11 explorer with Windows 10 explorer www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAGcEULdtgwI wonder, what would happen if to take explorer from Windows 6.4 (Win10 beta)? Will it work with classic theme like that from Windows 8.1? |
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Post by ihatemetro on Jun 23, 2021 11:45:02 GMT -8
People successfully replace Windows 11 explorer with Windows 10 explorer www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAGcEULdtgwI wonder, what would happen if to take explorer from Windows 6.4 (Win10 beta)? Will it work with classic theme like that from Windows 8.1? Windows 10's explorer is very close to Windows 11's, so it is expected to work. However, Windows (NT) 6.4's explorer is very different from the current explorer even in Windows 10, so it won't work. |
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Post by leet on Jun 24, 2021 13:35:57 GMT -8
The problem lies in the underlying API's. Windows Explorer, contrary to third party applications, uses the private shell API. This API is for use in a single build only and the locations and functions might change over the course of time. Because of this, older versions of Explorer would crash because they are trying to load an API that is no longer present/they are using an API that has been changed incorrectly. You could probably go a few builds back but no more than a year.
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Post by Splitwirez on Jun 28, 2021 18:46:29 GMT -8
First insider build of Windows 11 has landed: 22000.51 .  This just got...interesting... |
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Post by R.O.B. on Jun 28, 2021 20:41:27 GMT -8
First insider build of Windows 11 has landed: 22000.51 . This just got...interesting... Wow... certainly wasn't expecting that! |
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2021 2:51:52 GMT -8
So, they are metroifying everything, getting rid of conventional theming and subpixel hinting.
Also, make more salad of visual styles (their Edge browser already cannot render fonts as good as other programs).
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Post by anixx on Jun 29, 2021 2:52:32 GMT -8
In other words, linuxification. A mix of different incompatible toolkits.
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Post by ihatemetro on Jun 29, 2021 5:02:50 GMT -8
So, they are metroifying everything, getting rid of conventional theming and subpixel hinting. Exactly as I thought. Instead of giving us the choice of using metro or classic (Win32) programs, or even just getting rid of metro, they are still trying to shove metro down our throats even though it failed in the Windows 8 days. Have they forgotten that PCs and Laptops exist? Might as well call this "Windows Tablet Edition".
Also, is it possible to update from the leaked build to the insider build, or do I have to reinstall?
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Post by leet on Jul 3, 2021 9:16:47 GMT -8
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Post by anixx on Jul 4, 2021 6:06:52 GMT -8
Nothing is visible on the link. |
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Ingan121
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Post by Ingan121 on Jul 4, 2021 10:32:55 GMT -8
Interesting, how did you do the 2k logon window? Besides the classic theme, Win11 also completely killed the ability to use it without DWM. Screen is visible if you kill some Immersive processes (like 21H1 and before), but mouse doesn’t work at all. Not only the cursor is invisible, but also it doesn’t even move. (Noticeable when DWM was restored-the cursor remains where it was before the DWM had been killed.) This also applies in the Session 0, where DWM and visual styles are not present at all, and programs without DWM worked pretty stable in there until 20H1, even with FireDaemon ZeroInput installed. FD ZI allows keyboard input but mouse still doesn’t work at all. Maybe FireDaemon could release a update of ZeroInput that fixes this issue... hope they doesn’t limit the fix only for the session 0. |
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Post by menomirin on Jul 4, 2021 15:30:03 GMT -8
Interesting, how did you do this? Can it be ported to Win10? |
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Post by leet on Jul 5, 2021 7:23:22 GMT -8
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Post by anixx on Jul 5, 2021 10:34:44 GMT -8
In Pale Moon, nothing is visible, in Edge visible. |
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Post by anixx on Jul 5, 2021 12:54:25 GMT -8
Windows 11 Notepad lacks clientedge?
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Post by R.O.B. on Jul 5, 2021 14:57:37 GMT -8
Windows 11 Notepad lacks clientedge? I'm pretty sure that was removed in Windows 10 at some point, though I don't know the exact version off the top of my head (it may have been 1803, but I'm not sure). |
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Post by ihatemetro on Jul 5, 2021 16:19:06 GMT -8
Windows 11 Notepad lacks clientedge? Windows 11 Notepad is actually an “app”, just uninstall it and you’ll get the classic Win7 notepad back (it’s still stored in System32). For paint on the other hand, it’s the same thing, but you’ll need to copy paint (and its mui) from an earlier Windows 10 build. |
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Post by anixx on Jul 5, 2021 16:35:41 GMT -8
Windows 11 Notepad lacks clientedge? Windows 11 Notepad is actually an “app”, just uninstall it and you’ll get the classic Win7 notepad back (it’s still stored in System32). For paint on the other hand, it’s the same thing, but you’ll need to copy paint (and its mui) from an earlier Windows 10 build. I am referring to this: youtu.be/WsgN7DnCjPc?t=433 |
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Post by powerplayer on Oct 9, 2021 14:06:53 GMT -8
im on the release build no more skinny context menus they are pink instead using startallback classicshell and a few reg files to remove show more menu the only issue i ran in to is pink hard to read unless selected context menusalso the show more menu can be removed by this reg file win11_classic_context_menu.reg (476 B) |
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Post by anixx on Oct 9, 2021 14:10:33 GMT -8
Yes, with StartAllBack the context menus are pink.
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