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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 10:15:24 GMT -8
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 10:16:48 GMT -8
I hereby advise everyone to upgrade to Windows 11.
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Post by The Jackal on Dec 10, 2021 11:18:22 GMT -8
I hereby advise everyone to upgrade to Windows 11. My CPU is not supported, so I couldn't even if I wanted to. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 11:52:00 GMT -8
I hereby advise everyone to upgrade to Windows 11. My CPU is not supported, so I couldn't even if I wanted to. This is not a problem at all, my CPU is also not supported and the computer has no TPM module. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 11:55:59 GMT -8
Start menu:  Attachments:
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 12:01:18 GMT -8
The drivers from Windows 8.1 work just well.  Attachments:
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Post by ihatemetro on Dec 10, 2021 19:22:20 GMT -8
I hereby advise everyone to upgrade to Windows 11. My CPU is not supported, so I couldn't even if I wanted to. It is possible to install Windows 11 on a PC without TPM or UEFI. You can use DISM if you are fresh installing, or just running the setup.exe and ignoring warnings if you are upgrading. But Windows 11 is crappy anyway (M$ took the Vista-style System panel out of the control panel, with no way to restore it even by using registry modifications and system file replacements) so I would recommend staying on your current Windows version unless if you use Windows 10 2009 (20H2) or later. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 23:07:46 GMT -8
But Windows 11 is crappy anyway (M$ took the Vista-style System panel out of the control panel, with no way to restore it even by using registry modifications and system file replacements) so I would recommend staying on your current Windows version unless if you use Windows 10 2009 (20H2) or later. What do you mean? The Control Panel is still there in Windows 11 or did you mean something else?   |
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OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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Post by AnyKey on Dec 10, 2021 23:52:40 GMT -8
But Windows 11 is crappy anyway (M$ took the Vista-style System panel out of the control panel, with no way to restore it even by using registry modifications and system file replacements) so I would recommend staying on your current Windows version unless if you use Windows 10 2009 (20H2) or later. What do you mean? The Control Panel is still there in Windows 11 or did you mean something else? <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I think ihatemetro is talking about this.
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 23:56:34 GMT -8
I think ihatemetro is talking about this.
You can't be serious that absence of this thing is a reason to avoid the operating system. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 10, 2021 23:59:16 GMT -8
By the way, it exists, ha-ha, and shows Windows 10 logo!  In small font it says it's Windows 11. |
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AnyKey
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OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2
Theme: XP Classic Theme
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR4
GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 Super
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Post by AnyKey on Dec 11, 2021 0:15:34 GMT -8
By the way, it exists, ha-ha, and shows Windows 10 logo! In small font it says it's Windows 11. Wait. How did you get that? |
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Post by anixx on Dec 11, 2021 0:20:08 GMT -8
By the way, it exists, ha-ha, and shows Windows 10 logo! In small font it says it's Windows 11. Wait. How did you get that? Create a folder named System.{BB06C0E4-D293-4f75-8A90-CB05B6477EEE} |
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AnyKey
Sophomore Member
Posts: 248
OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2
Theme: XP Classic Theme
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
RAM: 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR4
GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 Super
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Post by AnyKey on Dec 11, 2021 0:32:45 GMT -8
Wait. How did you get that? Create a folder named System.{BB06C0E4-D293-4f75-8A90-CB05B6477EEE} Thanks. I wish I can access it from Control Panel. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 11, 2021 0:35:05 GMT -8
Create a folder named System.{BB06C0E4-D293-4f75-8A90-CB05B6477EEE} Thanks. I wish I can access it from Control Panel. Read some manuals on how to add things to control panel, I think it is possible. |
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Post by anixx on Dec 11, 2021 0:46:15 GMT -8
By the way, it exists, ha-ha, and shows Windows 10 logo! In small font it says it's Windows 11. Wait. How did you get that? One can also use the old personalization:  |
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Post by ihatemetro on Dec 11, 2021 6:19:13 GMT -8
By the way, it exists, ha-ha, and shows Windows 10 logo! <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> In small font it says it's Windows 11. Ok then. Time to experiment in a VM. |
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Post by leet on Dec 12, 2021 4:30:07 GMT -8
I hereby advise everyone to upgrade to Windows 11. I'd say it depends on a few things. If you're being bottlenecked because of ... ..TPM/Secure boot issues, then you should just upgrade. It doesn't affect usability at all. ..you're scared Classic Theme won't work, you should probably just upgrade. There's new methods for Windows 11 and older methods like SCT still work fine. ExplorerPatcher allows you to do much more with Explorer than any Windows 10 utility and it works great with Classic Theme. ..CPU incompatibility, you should think about if your PC can actually handle W11 first. W11 does in fact require a bit more CPU power, but not as much as Microsoft requires. You could try installing Windows 11 on a separate partition first just to see how it runs. If it's fine, go ahead and upgrade your main install. Also: some CPU's (specifically AMD bulldozer/jaguar) might be fully incompatible with Windows 11's hypervisor. Check this first! |
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Post by anixx on Dec 12, 2021 5:43:50 GMT -8
I would say, if your CPU supports x64, you should upgrade anyway. It works so much better than Windows 8.1 here! Much faster boots (even when rebooting), can use memory compression so to reduce pagefile use and increase available memory, etc. Also, there are small things like in 8.1 under Classic theme you only could use WinNT-style window switcher, but under Win11 you can use either WinNT, Win11 or Win10-style ones. The Wi-Fi tray flyout: also, Win11 and Win10-styled ones are readily available (on Win8.1 one had to go to the logon screen). The Metro apps work just fine, OpenShell works faster, etc, etc. |
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Post by leet on Dec 12, 2021 8:24:51 GMT -8
I would say, if your CPU supports x64, you should upgrade anyway. It works so much better than Windows 8.1 here! Much faster boots (even when rebooting), can use memory compression so to reduce pagefile use and increase available memory, etc. Also, there are small things like in 8.1 under Classic theme you only could use WinNT-style window switcher, but under Win11 you can use either WinNT, Win11 or Win10-style ones. The Wi-Fi tray flyout: also, Win11 and Win10-styled ones are readily available (on Win8.1 one had to go to the logon screen). The Metro apps work just fine, OpenShell works faster, etc, etc. What Windows 11 can do that other operating systems can not is not important. The CPU speed and compatibility is something you have to check when installing on unsupported CPU's. I did not (AMD bulldozer), and now I am stuck with having to disable WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) even though it was part of my workflow. When I installed Windows 11, it worked fine with the leaked build, but broke with the first Insider preview. Luckily, I know how to disable Hyper-V when you have a broken operating system but many people don't and will end up with a broken install that can't be repaired. Also, I managed to move my install into KVM so I can use the hosts Linux tools and shared folders to recreate a similar experience, but reverse. If this had happened with anyone else, they most likely would not have been able to resolve both or even just one of the issues. I get that not everyone uses WSL, but the Windows Hypervisor on its own, is enabled on many systems by default. The point is not if Windows 11 is better or not, but rather whether or not you'll run into issues when installing, or even worse: later along the line after Windows removed Windows.old. EDIT: Also: the things you mention are ExplorerPatcher features, not Windows 11 features! I'm pretty sure a bunch of these (Wifi flyout, window switches, context menu's) could be backported to Windows 10. |
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