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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 5:44:46 GMT -8
I wonder, whether it is possible, using this approach, to replace the flat taskbar (MSTaskListWClass) with a 3D taskbar (ToolbarWindow32)? |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 11, 2023 9:09:10 GMT -8
I wonder, whether it is possible, using this approach, to replace the flat taskbar (MSTaskListWClass) with a 3D taskbar (ToolbarWindow32)? Interesting. If possible, would this give a taskbar fully compatible with the classic theme ? I am working on the sources of the Windhawk mod which corresponds to the classic theme mitigations on ExplorerPatcher. gitdab.com/Cynosphere/WindhawkMods/src/branch/main/classic-theme-explorer.wh.cpp |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 9:16:27 GMT -8
I wonder, whether it is possible, using this approach, to replace the flat taskbar (MSTaskListWClass) with a 3D taskbar (ToolbarWindow32)? Interesting. If possible, would this give a taskbar fully compatible with the classic theme ? I am working on the sources of the Windhawk mod which corresponds to the classic theme mitigations on ExplorerPatcher. gitdab.com/Cynosphere/WindhawkMods/src/branch/main/classic-theme-explorer.wh.cppAs I can tell, this mod does completely different things than Classic theme mitigations in EP. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 11, 2023 9:27:50 GMT -8
As I can tell, this mod does completely different things than Classic theme mitigations in EP. It is also a reimplementation of SCT.FEH. But the Explorer mitigations code is contained in it (at least the result is similar, I tested). |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 9:36:46 GMT -8
As I can tell, this mod does completely different things than Classic theme mitigations in EP. It is also a reimplementation of SCT.FEH. But the Explorer mitigations code is contained in it (at least the result is similar, I tested). Does not work for me, the taskbar is unusable without EP. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 11, 2023 10:04:53 GMT -8
Does not work for me, the taskbar is unusable without EP. I did not uninstall EP. I just disabled the "enable classic theme mitigations" option. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 10:57:03 GMT -8
Does not work for me, the taskbar is unusable without EP. I did not uninstall EP. I just disabled the "enable classic theme mitigations" option. I did the same. The taskbar is unusable.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 11, 2023 10:59:39 GMT -8
I did the same. The taskbar is unusable. Strange, it works for me. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 11:00:12 GMT -8
I did the same. The taskbar is unusable. Strange, it works for me. You should restart Explorer after disabling the option. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 11:07:47 GMT -8
I did the same. The taskbar is unusable. Strange, it works for me. Well, it seems I had the older version. The classic theme mitigations were added more recently.
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 11:58:07 GMT -8
So, the mod by Cynosphere is approaching the point where we would not need EP. Things still lacking: - Revert to Win10 taskbar
- Tray flyouts substitution - Control panel pages substitution - SysListView32 - Use of Windows 10 taskbar - Enabling the Classic theme (by blocking handle access). |
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Post by leet on Apr 11, 2023 12:36:37 GMT -8
It is also a reimplementation of SCT.FEH. But the Explorer mitigations code is contained in it (at least the result is similar, I tested). It is indeed SCT.FEH source with EP's explorer mitigations added. The FEH source is slightly modified though to fix a few problems with it. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 11, 2023 14:24:43 GMT -8
Well, so I went ahead and tried to uninstall EP and use only DisableUndocking reg key, 7+TT and WindHawk mods. I experience only the following problems: - The taskbar context menu (second level) is empty.
- Context menu of volume icon is empty.
- Wi-fi flyout does not work. - There is a gear icon in tray, do not know how to remove it. - Clock flyout is Win 11 style. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 12, 2023 5:14:56 GMT -8
Another glitch with "classic explorer" mod: the 3D border around tray does not always appear.
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Post by The Jackal on Apr 12, 2023 11:43:13 GMT -8
I've seperated this into it's own thread because I think it warrants it. I've also been experiementing with Cynosphere"s Classic Theme Explorer" windhawk mod that OrthodoxWin32 posted above, and I've been able to get the classic 9x taskbar rebars to show. Not sure if this is known or not.  Sadly, it comes with issues for me - namely this weird bug that smears black all over the running tasks and tray areas. |
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Post by AnyKey on Apr 12, 2023 21:42:49 GMT -8
I wonder, whether it is possible, using this approach, to replace the flat taskbar (MSTaskListWClass) with a 3D taskbar (ToolbarWindow32)? Interesting. If possible, would this give a taskbar fully compatible with the classic theme ? I am working on the sources of the Windhawk mod which corresponds to the classic theme mitigations on ExplorerPatcher. gitdab.com/Cynosphere/WindhawkMods/src/branch/main/classic-theme-explorer.wh.cppThat mod crashes the explorer when I try to open a folder. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 13, 2023 0:05:10 GMT -8
I've seperated this into it's own thread because I think it warrants it. I've also been experiementing with Cynosphere"s Classic Theme Explorer" windhawk mod that OrthodoxWin32 posted above, and I've been able to get the classic 9x taskbar rebars to show. Not sure if this is known or not. Sadly, it comes with issues for me - namely this weird bug that smears black all over the running tasks and tray areas. The latest version works well for me. I tried to uninstall EP, and the taskbar looks just the same. The only glitches are the tray flyouts and the frame around tray area appearing in 50/50 cases.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 13, 2023 1:43:58 GMT -8
Personally, what interests me in this mod is not to be able to replace EP (the fact of activating it or not does not matter to me), but to potentially be able to use the taskbar with the classic theme without displaying the labels.
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Post by anixx on Apr 13, 2023 1:49:26 GMT -8
Here is how the taskbar looks for me without EP, using only registry hacks (UndockingDisabled, etc), WindHawk mods, OpenShell and 7+TT:
I do not know how to remove the ActionCenter icon. The context menus of network and sound are empty. Otherwise, the look is the same as with EP.
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Post by The Jackal on Apr 13, 2023 10:40:29 GMT -8
I've seperated this into it's own thread because I think it warrants it. I've also been experiementing with Cynosphere"s Classic Theme Explorer" windhawk mod that OrthodoxWin32 posted above, and I've been able to get the classic 9x taskbar rebars to show. Not sure if this is known or not. Sadly, it comes with issues for me - namely this weird bug that smears black all over the running tasks and tray areas. The latest version works well for me. I tried to uninstall EP, and the taskbar looks just the same. The only glitches are the tray flyouts and the frame around tray area appearing in 50/50 cases.
I'm thinking it's the method I'm using to activate classic theme that is causing these glitches for me, not the mod. |
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