Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 25, 2024 7:18:28 GMT -8
I'm curious, how do you people here handle looks vs functionality when modding their systems?
To give an example for me, I absolutely love the look of the sleek Vista Taskbar with Aero, no pinned apps and text-lables. However on the other hand I find the functionality of the Win7+ Superbar with pinned apps and no labels with Always Combine much more efficient for my usecase and workflow. I've been thinking of a way as to how to combine both things but couldn't come up with anything that works well yet.
I'm wondering, how do other people handle this, do you also have some UI things where both are at odds?
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 25, 2024 7:39:42 GMT -8
Hello Skyy , Regarding your problem, you mean, if I'm not mistaken, that you found the taskbar more beautiful and the superbar more practical ?
To answer your question generally, not everyone handles this problem the same way. Some members mainly aim to reproduce an old system identically, then another... In this case, only the resemblance with the old system counts. Then, among those (of which I am one) who do not seek to make Windows look like another Windows down to the pixel, there are several points of view, not everyone gives the same importance to aesthetic and ergonomic elements. For my part, I attach a lot of importance to ergonomics and performance. For aesthetic/design, I especially attach importance to visual synchronization, particularly in terms of colors and style of buttons (and also spacing between buttons). But if this is respected, I largely favor ergonomics, with fairly strict criteria (for example, I favor MDI display over tab display). So regarding the taskbar, if I were in your situation, I would choose to use the superbar, because most of the time for me, good ergonomics is good design (except in cases where it hinders the general aesthetic coherence of the system). |
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 25, 2024 8:00:37 GMT -8
Hello Skyy , Regarding your problem, you mean, if I'm not mistaken, that you found the taskbar more beautiful and the superbar more practical ?
To answer your question generally, not everyone handles this problem the same way. Some members mainly aim to reproduce an old system identically, then another... In this case, only the resemblance with the old system counts. Then, among those (of which I am one) who do not seek to make Windows look like another Windows down to the pixel, there are several points of view, not everyone gives the same importance to aesthetic and ergonomic elements. For my part, I attach a lot of importance to ergonomics and performance. For aesthetic/design, I especially attach importance to visual synchronization, particularly in terms of colors and style of buttons (and also spacing between buttons). But if this is respected, I largely favor ergonomics, with fairly strict criteria (for example, I favor MDI display over tab display). So regarding the taskbar, if I were in your situation, I would choose to use the superbar, because most of the time for me, good ergonomics is good design (except in cases where it hinders the general aesthetic coherence of the system). Yes this is exactly it regarding the Taskbar vs Superbar. And I see, so you basically try to make everything consistent but add usability here and there, interesting! |
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angelbruni
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Post by angelbruni on Apr 25, 2024 8:49:30 GMT -8
I'm curious, how do you people here handle looks vs functionality when modding their systems?
To give an example for me, I absolutely love the look of the sleek Vista Taskbar with Aero, no pinned apps and text-lables. However on the other hand I find the functionality of the Win7+ Superbar with pinned apps and no labels with Always Combine much more efficient for my usecase and workflow. I've been thinking of a way as to how to combine both things but couldn't come up with anything that works well yet.
I'm wondering, how do other people handle this, do you also have some UI things where both are at odds?
I mainly go for functionality: the way I solved the Vista Taskbar vs Superbar problem was by recreating the early superbar iteration which is basically Vista-look + Superbar. |
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 25, 2024 11:34:20 GMT -8
I'm curious, how do you people here handle looks vs functionality when modding their systems?
To give an example for me, I absolutely love the look of the sleek Vista Taskbar with Aero, no pinned apps and text-lables. However on the other hand I find the functionality of the Win7+ Superbar with pinned apps and no labels with Always Combine much more efficient for my usecase and workflow. I've been thinking of a way as to how to combine both things but couldn't come up with anything that works well yet.
I'm wondering, how do other people handle this, do you also have some UI things where both are at odds?
I mainly go for functionality: the way I solved the Vista Taskbar vs Superbar problem was by recreating the early superbar iteration which is basically Vista-look + Superbar. That's interesting, would you have a screenshot of that? |
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Post by Sennanon on Apr 25, 2024 12:07:24 GMT -8
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 25, 2024 14:32:16 GMT -8
Very interesting, thanks! I wonder how that would look with small icons. |
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angelbruni
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Post by angelbruni on Apr 25, 2024 14:59:04 GMT -8
I mainly go for functionality: the way I solved the Vista Taskbar vs Superbar problem was by recreating the early superbar iteration which is basically Vista-look + Superbar. That's interesting, would you have a screenshot of that?  |
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 25, 2024 17:23:03 GMT -8
Thanks to you too, that is a good mix. |
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Post by nonameneeded on May 1, 2024 10:16:40 GMT -8
For me it's crucial that everything works flawlessly so no matter how great a modification looks, it's completely worthless for me if something no longer works the way it's supposed to because of the mod.
And if a mod I really want to use causes problems I try to find a workaround that I'm ok with. If that's not possible, I won't use the mod.
That's one of the reasons why it took me so long to switch from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (or 11 on my second computer).
Because I really wanted to keep on using the classic theme but it wasn't really possible because of the screwed up task bar (the look) or the screwed up taskbar because of Taskbow (fixed the look but it's no good).
Only with the mod that fixed that I finally switched to Windows 10/11
I also use as few mods as possible and the mods I use are very restricted as far as the processes it injects into are concerned.
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on May 2, 2024 3:38:41 GMT -8
For me it's crucial that everything works flawlessly so no matter how great a modification looks, it's completely worthless for me if something no longer works the way it's supposed to because of the mod. And if a mod I really want to use causes problems I try to find a workaround that I'm ok with. If that's not possible, I won't use the mod. That's one of the reasons why it took me so long to switch from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (or 11 on my second computer). Because I really wanted to keep on using the classic theme but it wasn't really possible because of the screwed up task bar (the look) or the screwed up taskbar because of Taskbow (fixed the look but it's no good). Only with the mod that fixed that I finally switched to Windows 10/11 I also use as few mods as possible and the mods I use are very restricted as far as the processes it injects into are concerned. That's a very fair stance! |
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