vindasal
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Post by vindasal on Aug 6, 2024 18:02:52 GMT -8
For the first time I know of, Firefox has broken with an update. Now when opening the browser, the entire window frame and title bar are white. Sometimes the gradient section will appear after navigation, but the buttons and border remain white. After maximizing, it fixes itself, but every new window is busted. Behavior is the same with Basic themer in use, and DWM unextend frames enabled in Windhawk as well. Can't say whether basic theme is affected or not at the moment. Curious to see if this issue is affecting everyone or if I'm just that unlucky.
Here's an example of how it appears with a new window:
Here's what it looks like with a few other broken frames: |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 7, 2024 2:26:13 GMT -8
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vindasal
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Post by vindasal on Aug 7, 2024 3:41:41 GMT -8
Unfortunately that mod did nothing to fix this problem, all it did was make the browser contents incredibly blown out (unsurprisingly, but it's very jarring)
I take every Firefox update immediately and this is the first one to clash with classic theme.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 7, 2024 4:27:52 GMT -8
Unfortunately that mod did nothing to fix this problem, all it did was make the browser contents incredibly blown out (unsurprisingly, but it's very jarring)
I take every Firefox update immediately and this is the first one to clash with classic theme.
EDIT: Even after disabling the Phroton theme, I don't have the issue. So it probably comes from a setting to change in about:config.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 7, 2024 4:47:16 GMT -8
Show me the position of the following Firefox settings: toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets svg.context-properties.content.enabled widget.non-native-theme.always-high-contrast widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.active-always-themed widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.dark-themed Also, it may be a transparency issue. Try using this mod: windhawk.net/mods/dwm-unextend-frames |
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vindasal
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Post by vindasal on Aug 7, 2024 13:06:29 GMT -8
Show me the position of the following Firefox settings: toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets svg.context-properties.content.enabled widget.non-native-theme.always-high-contrast widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.active-always-themed widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.dark-themed Also, it may be a transparency issue. Try using this mod: windhawk.net/mods/dwm-unextend-framestoolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets is set to False. svg.context-properties.content.enabled is set to False. widget.non-native-theme.always-high-contrast is set to False. widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.active-always-themed is set to True. widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.dark-themed is set to True.
That mod unfortunately doesn't work, that's the first thing I tried as it does work with Pale Moon and other Gecko forks.
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vindasal
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Post by vindasal on Aug 7, 2024 13:19:48 GMT -8
I changed all of those to the opposite value and it changed nothing, I also disabled Windhawk entirely and it still happens.
The only non-GUI supported change I've made to Firefox is to enable the compact tabs setting. Disabling this also fixed nothing. I even completely removed my Firefox profile. What's weird is when I did that, the first window opened looks fine, but once you open a second window of any kind (library, history, second main browser window, private browsing) it is broken.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 7, 2024 14:50:33 GMT -8
I changed all of those to the opposite value and it changed nothing, I also disabled Windhawk entirely and it still happens. The only non-GUI supported change I've made to Firefox is to enable the compact tabs setting. Disabling this also fixed nothing. I even completely removed my Firefox profile. What's weird is when I did that, the first window opened looks fine, but once you open a second window of any kind (library, history, second main browser window, private browsing) it is broken. Indeed, the settings were opposite to mine. But if it doesn't change anything, it may be related and other settings. Afterwards, I just realized that when I open a new window, I get something similar to your screenshot. However, it disappears if I move the window.
So I confirm the existence of the issue. This does indeed seem worrying for the future.
Firefox is really proof that free software can abuse users just as well as proprietary software. The difference is that it is possible to fork free software.
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Post by bluedxca93 on Aug 20, 2024 8:58:42 GMT -8
Inkscape might be affected of a similar bug.
It might be possible to implement classic theme as a msstyle and only fallback to real classic theme if application suppports it arghh...
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Aug 20, 2024 9:24:13 GMT -8
Inkscape might be affected of a similar bug. It might be possible to implement classic theme as a msstyle and only fallback to real classic theme if application suppports it arghh... We should especially put pressure on developers to adopt good practices when using graphics libraries. When it comes to free software (this is the case for Firefox and Inkscape), a good argument would be the support of ReactOS, which officially supports the classic theme. It would be necessary to list all the problematic applications and form an action team, which would be very familiar with how the graphics libraries work under Win32. Inkscape is very ugly with the classic theme anyway, for a long time. |
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Post by bluedxca93 on Aug 20, 2024 9:58:54 GMT -8
It is funny but these new yaru-/adwaita gtk4 designs on linux looks very similar to what is done in windows 11. Firefox is atill gtk2/3 but it would move to gtk4 and new win11 decorations soon i fear, if it hasnt already happened
What could be done is to beg the devellopers to use old fashioned standard window decorations on windows.Or ask poe.com claude sonnet AI how to patch the source code to archieve this behaviour. Do not underestimate the huge workload to patch every single app. Just impossible imho
Today i was comparing notepad of win11 with gedit. Its funny but the optical design breakage is almost identical to what we are seeing in windows 11. Get the impression that the newer dwm window decorations from microsoft are equal to the client side decorations of gtk 3.24+ and 4 for wayland and x11.
Just my 2 cents. Am sry to not be able to help
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Post by anixx on Aug 20, 2024 11:29:51 GMT -8
I thought, Firefox is XUL, not GTK.
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Post by nincollin on Sept 11, 2024 9:37:46 GMT -8
Should mention that I'm having this issue as well with a fresh firefox install
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Post by nonameneeded on Sept 15, 2024 10:56:27 GMT -8
I can also confirm this problem.
The good thing however is, that Firefox 128ESR doesn't have that problem (starts with 129) and it can be used for another year so maybe a solution is found within the next few months.
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Post by anixx on Sept 16, 2024 4:57:24 GMT -8
I installed Firefox 128, but is also broken:
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Post by Jevil7452 on Sept 16, 2024 6:48:49 GMT -8
This doesn't look like the same kind of broken. It seems like it's a theme issue?
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Post by anixx on Sept 16, 2024 7:03:03 GMT -8
What do you folks use for Clqassic theme in Firefox? I have just installed the theme from Cynosphere. github.com/Cynosphere/MSFX/issues/newIt is much better, but has issues: the "Stop" button is partially displayed, the toolbar separators are just white lines. |
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vindasal
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Post by vindasal on Sept 16, 2024 9:13:48 GMT -8
What do you folks use for Clqassic theme in Firefox? I have just installed the theme from Cynosphere. github.com/Cynosphere/MSFX/issues/newIt is much better, but has issues: the "Stop" button is partially displayed, the toolbar separators are just white lines. I'm just using stock Firefox theme with compact tabs enabled in about:config, but it does it regardless of that setting. I've never really bothered with custom themes for Firefox because it seems (at least from what I've read, maybe wrong) that they don't survive updates very well. It would be nice to go back to Firefox 3 era theme though. |
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Post by nonameneeded on Sept 16, 2024 11:27:44 GMT -8
I'm using my own theme, which is a collection of code snippets from all over the world (also from Travis' theme) and the stuff I could come up with on my own.  |
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