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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 3:33:13 GMT -8
Microsoft also removed the option "open folders in separate windows" from Explorer, finally killing the spatial file management paradigm. Fortunately, the option still can be set via registry: www.elevenforum.com/t/open-folder-in-new-or-same-window-in-windows-11.6629/#SixIt seems, nowaday they think their main job is removing options (and even that they do not do thoroughly as this can be restored via registry: People on Win10! Can you please export this registry place: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
or at least
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\Folder
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 5:13:44 GMT -8
No, it also happens without classic theme enabled and with the default EP settings.
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 5:18:26 GMT -8
No, it also happens without classic theme enabled and with the default EP settings. Does it happen when Win10 taskbar is enabled with non-EP means?
P.S. Since this issue affects all EP users, this likely will be fixed soon.
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Post by AnyKey on Mar 14, 2024 5:18:54 GMT -8
Microsoft also removed the option "open folders in separate windows" from Explorer, finally killing the spatial file management paradigm. Fortunately, the option still can be set via registry: www.elevenforum.com/t/open-folder-in-new-or-same-window-in-windows-11.6629/#SixIt seems, nowaday they think their main job is removing options (and even that they do not do thoroughly as this can be restored via registry: People on Win10! Can you please export this registry place: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
or at least
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 5:22:05 GMT -8
No, it also happens without classic theme enabled and with the default EP settings. Does it happen when Win10 taskbar is enabled with non-EP means? Good question, I've never tried that. But is there a working way to enable it (in a fully working fashion) without EP?
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Mar 14, 2024 5:33:51 GMT -8
Microsoft also removed the option "open folders in separate windows" from Explorer, finally killing the spatial file management paradigm. Fortunately, the option still can be set via registry: www.elevenforum.com/t/open-folder-in-new-or-same-window-in-windows-11.6629/#SixIt seems, nowaday they think their main job is removing options (and even that they do not do thoroughly as this can be restored via registry: If there is no longer the possibility of using the Explorer in separate windows in the future, I think I will no longer use Windows. Because even though there are a lot of third-party file managers, none allow you to open folders in separate windows. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Mar 14, 2024 5:38:22 GMT -8
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 5:47:01 GMT -8
Microsoft also removed the option "open folders in separate windows" from Explorer, finally killing the spatial file management paradigm. Fortunately, the option still can be set via registry: www.elevenforum.com/t/open-folder-in-new-or-same-window-in-windows-11.6629/#SixIt seems, nowaday they think their main job is removing options (and even that they do not do thoroughly as this can be restored via registry: If there is no longer the possibility of using the Explorer in separate windows in the future, I think I will no longer use Windows. Because even though there are a lot of third-party file managers, none allow you to open folders in separate windows. I definitely cannot confirm that. When I right click on a folder I have the option to open this folder in a separate window (and it works).
But as i said earlier, I'm on 22631.2861, I don't know about later versions.
Why would they remove that?
P.S: I've just found this thread. In this case it seemed to be a bug with the arabic language package, so I guess it might be a bug in anixx' case as well.
Maybe it's a bug that only affects certain languages.
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 5:52:42 GMT -8
Even if it did, it doesn't seem to be a fully working taskbar. I don't think I want to try that.
The only way to get a fully working Windows 10 taskbar is EP, I'm afraid.
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 5:55:04 GMT -8
Even if it did, it doesn't seem to be a fully working taskbar. I don't think I want to try that.
The only way to get a fully working Windows 10 taskbar is EP, I'm afraid.
In Win11 21H2 (build 22000) it was fully working. No need for EP. |
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 5:58:05 GMT -8
BTW: If someone's looking for even more incompatibilities, I have something more. Pressing the Windows-key on your keyboard will no longer open the classic menu (even if it's set correctly). That's another bug of Windows 11 and Open shell. I really wish someone could compile a new version of open shell (the Windows-key problem is fixed in newer versions) that includes: --> the fixes for Windows 11 --> the option to use colored buttons in Explorer tool bars when you hover over it: winclassic.net/thread/2100/colored-hover-icons-explorer-toolbar?page=1&scrollTo=17054--> of course the task bar fixes I would do it but I can't compile anything and I'm not a programmer. |
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Post by AnyKey on Mar 14, 2024 6:06:39 GMT -8
Thanks. Do you have this option in folder options? Yes (not English though).
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 6:16:44 GMT -8
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 6:23:33 GMT -8
Here is the reg file that restores the hidden folder options, like "Always show menu" and others.
I wonder what the option "Use fitting dates" mean?
Attachments:FolderOptions.zip (1.58 KB)
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 6:33:33 GMT -8
Do you mean this one: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\Folder\FriendlyLegacyDates] "CheckedValue"=dword:00000001 "DefaultValue"=dword:00000001 "HKeyRoot"=dword:80000001 "RegPath"="Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Explorer\\Advanced" "Text"=" shell32 .dll,-51744" "Type"="checkbox" "UncheckedValue"=dword:00000000 "ValueName"="FriendlyDates" I don't know what it does but in German it translates to "use user-friendly dates" It has something to do with the way dates are displayed, I guess. But I can't see any difference.
P.S. I don't think that this setting is even working because no matter if I check or uncheck it, it will always be displayed as checked in the registry, which shouldn't be the case if it was working.
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 7:18:54 GMT -8
In 23H2 the Win11 taskbar looks normal under classic theme, One only has to remove Thickframe style, and then add and removvw WS_CAPTION. OpenShell is bugged and shows the classic start button at position x=-1. If this was fixed, it would look better.
Here is the taskbar under Classic Theme without influece of EP or OpenShell:
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 7:28:57 GMT -8
With EP disabled, the windows still sppear black.
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 14, 2024 8:18:24 GMT -8
With EP disabled, the windows still sppear black. You're right. That's an interesting find. Even though, as far as I remember the problem was fixed when I uninstalled EP. Now it persists. That's strange.
However, it also occurs with classic theme disabled.
So it has to be something else, maybe it's related to the color settings?
I don't know.
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Post by anixx on Mar 14, 2024 12:43:12 GMT -8
I wonder, why to introduce tabs, they had to break everything else?
Tabs in folder windows were first introduced in Win95Beta, and that time it was realized with standard controls.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Mar 14, 2024 16:59:46 GMT -8
anixx Afterwards, there is a Windhawk mod to completely disable tabs, but in your case it blocks the explorer. I think we should test everything, settings by settings, to try to see clearly any possible conflicts between the settings on 23H2.
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