mauro
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Post by mauro on Apr 13, 2024 1:46:20 GMT -8
not show clock and noting on right screen,How to solve this so that the clock appears again, and all icons in the tray
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Post by betamaster on Apr 13, 2024 2:09:09 GMT -8
Microsoft broke something (again), you can either downgrade to 23H2, or wait for an ExplorerPatcher update to fix it.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 13, 2024 3:14:16 GMT -8
mauro Verify that you are using the latest version of ExplorerPatcher.
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mauro
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Post by mauro on Apr 13, 2024 3:20:51 GMT -8
mauro Verify that you are using the latest version of ExplorerPatcher. yes 22621.3296.64.3 for install on 26100 im rename ep_setup.exe to example for 2.exe and install
If you leave the original name, it won't install. MS will block it.
for uninstaing im rename to ep_uninstall.exe and run
probably in future versions of explorer patcher the author will have to change names ep_setup.exe will no longer work in 24h2 onwards
and even in the system you will have to remove ep_setup.exe otherwise it won't even uninstall, MS will block it even to uninstall
Maybe the author will have to modify all names that start with ep, in future versions to make it work properly in 24h2
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 13, 2024 3:29:57 GMT -8
yes 22621.3296.64.3 for install on 26100 im rename ep_setup.exe to example for 2.exe and install
If you leave the original name, it won't install. MS will block it.
for uninstaing im rename to ep_uninstall.exe and run
probably in future versions of explorer patcher the author will have to change names ep_setup.exe will no longer work in 24h2 onwards
and even in the system you will have to remove ep_setup.exe otherwise it won't even uninstall, MS will block it even to uninstall
Maybe the author will have to modify all names that start with ep, in future versions to make it work properly in 24h2
Obviously, the system tray problem is known. I'm trying to browse EP's Discord server, I can't figure out if there is a solution to this problem. One thing seems certain, the system tray is being reimplemented. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 13, 2024 7:14:09 GMT -8
Possibly, all these changes indicate that it is better to stay at Win10 rather than upgrade to Win11. While Win11 21h2 is absolutely OK, the later changes complicate the life. At the same time, Win10 likely will not change the user interface radically.
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Legofan
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Post by Legofan on Apr 13, 2024 13:13:30 GMT -8
not show clock and noting on right screen,How to solve this so that the clock appears again, and all icons in the tray
Microsoft is actively breaking the Windows 10 Taskbar in 11. The EP devs are working on a reimplementation though. |
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mauro
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Post by mauro on Apr 26, 2024 2:22:58 GMT -8
22621.3527.65.1 Pre-release
Tested on OS builds 22621.3296, 22621.3447, and 22621.3527. (Note: 22621 and 22631 share the same OS files)
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Taskbar10: The Windows 10 taskbar option is now no longer available on 26002+. (#3053, e57a6b0)
This is to comply with Microsoft's removal of the stock Windows 10 taskbar in explorer.exe of said builds.
Start10: Fixed Pin to Start on 226xx.3420+ (22H2, 23H2) and 25169+ (24H2). (232fe6b)
Start10: Reverted the menu closing delay fix when EP is injected only into StartMenuExperienceHost.exe for now. (e59c34c)
Please consult the README for more details.
My God, we will no longer have the option to use taskmanager, like in W10 with small icons, now only in W11, everything is huge, as if everyone can have a 1440p or larger monitor so it looks good, here my monitor is 900p, so those huge W11 icons are a pain. crap, so it was essential to use small icons, what to do now?
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Legofan
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OS: Windows 11 24H2
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RAM: 64GB / 8 GB
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti / IGPU
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Post by Legofan on Apr 26, 2024 2:26:07 GMT -8
22621.3527.65.1 Pre-release Tested on OS builds 22621.3296, 22621.3447, and 22621.3527. (Note: 22621 and 22631 share the same OS files) 1 Taskbar10: The Windows 10 taskbar option is now no longer available on 26002+. (#3053, e57a6b0) This is to comply with Microsoft's removal of the stock Windows 10 taskbar in explorer.exe of said builds. Start10: Fixed Pin to Start on 226xx.3420+ (22H2, 23H2) and 25169+ (24H2). (232fe6b) Start10: Reverted the menu closing delay fix when EP is injected only into StartMenuExperienceHost.exe for now. (e59c34c) Please consult the README for more details. My God, we will no longer have the option to use taskmanager, like in W10 with small icons, now only in W11, everything is huge, as if everyone can have a 1440p or larger monitor so it looks good, here my monitor is 900p, so those huge W11 icons are a pain. crap, so it was essential to use small icons, what to do now? Use 23H2 maybe? |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 26, 2024 2:53:14 GMT -8
The EP team (because now there seems to be several developers on it), is in the process of reimplementing the taskbar. But I suppose the work required is significant, so it won't happen for a while.
The key issues at the moment are clearly:
- Reimplement the taskbar
- Find a way to make DWM look the same as Windows 10
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Post by anixx on Apr 26, 2024 3:07:26 GMT -8
My God, we will no longer have the option to use taskmanager, like in W10 with small icons, now only in W11, everything is huge, as if everyone can have a 1440p or larger monitor so it looks good, here my monitor is 900p, so those huge W11 icons are a pain. crap, so it was essential to use small icons, what to do now? This is intended for touchscreens. The Metro interface was initially developed for telephones. |
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Post by anixx on Apr 26, 2024 3:12:03 GMT -8
The EP team (because now there seems to be several developers on it), is in the process of reimplementing the taskbar. But I suppose the work required is significant, so it won't happen for a while. The key issues at the moment are clearly: - Reimplement the taskbar - Find a way to make DWM look the same as Windows 10 I think, they will re-implement tray for builds before 26000, which is a good idea. But re-implementing the whole taskbar will be just another alternative shell of no importance.
It would be better to hook XAML systemwide and make it look Win32.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 26, 2024 5:45:34 GMT -8
I think, they will re-implement tray for builds before 26000, which is a good idea. But re-implementing the whole taskbar will be just another alternative shell of no importance.
It would be better to hook XAML systemwide and make it look Win32.
However, it seems to me that this is the intention of the Explorerpatcher team. Personally, I am not in favor of hanging XAML elements in the long term, because these elements also have lower performance. The main issue seems to me to be in the functionalities of a possible re-implementation of the taskbar. So far, none have managed to correctly reproduce certain features, notably additional features (like those of 7+ TaskbarTweaker). |
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mauro
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Post by mauro on Apr 26, 2024 6:42:54 GMT -8
 solution install startallback and taskbar work perfect and explorer patcher to using for classic menu context |
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 26, 2024 7:37:42 GMT -8
Will this eventually also affect the Windows 10 Start Menu revived with Explorer Patcher? I use it for Live Tiles for News and Weather.
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Post by Brawllux on Apr 26, 2024 8:06:29 GMT -8
Will this eventually also affect the Windows 10 Start Menu revived with Explorer Patcher? I use it for Live Tiles for News and Weather. Windows 10 start menu is already removed from builds above 23H2(Beta channel may still incude it idk). |
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Skyy
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Post by Skyy on Apr 26, 2024 8:54:52 GMT -8
Will this eventually also affect the Windows 10 Start Menu revived with Explorer Patcher? I use it for Live Tiles for News and Weather. Windows 10 start menu is already removed from builds above 23H2(Beta channel may still incude it idk). Ah alright, I'm still on 23H2 stable so that's why I didn't notice. I suppose I'll try to build something with Rainmeter for the Live Tiles I'll be missing. The Widget Panel is good in theory after the latest updates but the widgets themselves are bad.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 26, 2024 13:53:13 GMT -8
Why, if the code has been removed, does the taskbar still work with StartAllBack ?
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Post by Brawllux on Apr 27, 2024 1:38:34 GMT -8
Why, if the code has been removed, does the taskbar still work with StartAllBack ? Startallback has reimplemented taskbar,it is not the Windows 10 taskbar you know. Just like the start menu it is reverse engineered. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Apr 27, 2024 1:52:45 GMT -8
Startallback has reimplemented taskbar,it is not the Windows 10 taskbar you know. Just like the start menu it is reverse engineered. Thank you, I understand better. And from the screenshot, this taskbar seems to support Win32 controls well, without Metroified elements (and therefore logically the classic theme). It won't be very difficult for ExplorerPatcher to reimplement it too. |
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