clara
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Post by clara on May 14, 2024 15:54:54 GMT -8
So annoying all I want is to have a good Windows 7 Theme and someone just has to ruin it. We definitely a replacement for the uDWM patch so the windows icon and title are placed properly with thick frames. Until proven otherwise, the only malicious program coming from Alcatel is the fake DWMBlurGlass. I think its too big of a credit of trust to give. I get your concern for community, but i think this kind of a transgression is big enough to be a way bigger danger to the community than any potential "toxicity".
Regarding the non-apology i am also personally just baffled how someone can claim the toxicity of others and yet be the one hacking other people and spamming slurs from their accounts.
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Post by Princess Loolilalu on May 16, 2024 19:11:56 GMT -8
Where i should get the updates of DWMBlurGlass? i don't wanna be in danger and i use that thing a lot D:
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arbestriagain
Sophomore Member
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Posts: 143
OS: Windows 11 Home 23H2
Theme: Default
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F
RAM: 32GB
GPU: GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER
Computer Make/Model: HP OMEN 25L Desktop GT12-0xxx
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Post by arbestriagain on May 16, 2024 19:28:44 GMT -8
Where i should get the updates of DWMBlurGlass? i don't wanna be in danger and i use that thing a lot D: The official GitHub page |
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Post by loweisound on May 17, 2024 3:33:45 GMT -8
The uDWM patched I got rid of thick framer. The uDWM patch does not come from Alcatel initially (it is just redistributed by). Afterwards, there is now a Windhawk mod that does the same thing, you can use it.
This is my first post on this forum and I wanted to thank you for this valuable information. This Windhawk mod was the only creation of Alcatel that I installed on my system.
I am still going to scan everything using Eset and Farbar Recovery Scan Tool plus on a few Windows PE ISOs.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on May 18, 2024 1:11:40 GMT -8
This is my first post on this forum and I wanted to thank you for this valuable information. This Windhawk mod was the only creation of Alcatel that I installed on my system.
I am still going to scan everything using Eset and Farbar Recovery Scan Tool plus on a few Windows PE ISOs.
Your welcome. If the only Alcatel creation installed on your system is a Windhawk mod, you have nothing to worry about, continue to use your system normally.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on May 18, 2024 1:21:37 GMT -8
I think its too big of a credit of trust to give. I get your concern for community, but i think this kind of a transgression is big enough to be a way bigger danger to the community than any potential "toxicity".
Regarding the non-apology i am also personally just baffled how someone can claim the toxicity of others and yet be the one hacking other people and spamming slurs from their accounts.
Your first remark is technical. I plan to inspect all code in each project, to make sure there is no malicious code. But I'm pretty sure there isn't one, because all the projects are from before Alcatel's revenge. For the rest, everyone agrees that this behavior is reprehensible and destructive. Except what interests me is why we got to this point. Certainly, Alcatel seems psychologically fragile, but everyone initially comes here (on a discord server or on the forum) to discuss Windows customization, not to fight. Alcatel cannot have wanted revenge without anything having happened before. In the past, there have been several dramas on Discord, I felt a gradation; To be honest, I was already afraid that something like this would happen, unfortunately I was right. Furthermore, the forum had always been spared from drama ; apart from the Alcatel event, I feel an additional tension in the forum, on different subjects. I don't like this at all. |
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Post by leet on May 18, 2024 6:38:22 GMT -8
I find it a shame that our community is being abused in these ways, even to the point where members are now scared of downloading files because they could be malicious. The entire DWMBG Discord server was already suspicious of fake members while claiming to be official. I do not understand what Alcatel was trying to achieve here. It only disrupted the community and obliterated what was left of his image.
As I have said on Discord, I guess this is why people were afraid when I announced that I was pulling Simple Classic Theme from GitHub. At first, I did not understand it, especially since Simple Classic Theme 2.0 would be the community's most secure Classic Theme tool. But I see how having no insight into what an app does can scare away people. It makes me think about what power other bigger tools such as StartIsBack/StartAllBack might have over many more users than this community alone.
As to virus checks, I think this is not a foolproof way of validating a piece of software. With theming-related tools, most virus scanners will get angry because system files/processes are modified. You should always run stuff in an enclosed environment (eg. a VM or old, disconnected PC) first to ensure that whatever you are running is safe. This is the only way to properly assess what a closed-source tool does.
Probably my last input on the topic. I think we should not give it much more attention since there is not much more we can do. The malicious files have been removed from most communities/Discord servers by now, so there is no longer a big threat.
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ShokCat
New Member
Posts: 5
OS: Windows 10 22H2
Theme: Windows XP, Windows 7
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Post by ShokCat on May 18, 2024 13:32:59 GMT -8
I wonder if it would be possible to remake the win7 skinpack they made and remove any malicious code like the bundled DWMBlur and could maybe replace it with a text document with a link to the official github page, idk if anything else in that pack is malicious other than the DWMblur.
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Post by wartronica on May 19, 2024 8:25:55 GMT -8
I almost installed BasicThemer5, luckily Windows Defender caught it before I could. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on May 19, 2024 10:29:58 GMT -8
I almost installed BasicThemer5, luckily Windows Defender caught it before I could. Thanks for the heads up. BasicThemer5 does not contain malicious code. Windows Defender detects it the same way it detects all classic and basic theme tools. You can reinstall it without fear. |
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Post by Brawllux on May 19, 2024 14:49:35 GMT -8
I almost installed BasicThemer5, luckily Windows Defender caught it before I could. Thanks for the heads up. BasicThemer5 does not contain malicious code. Windows Defender detects it the same way it detects all classic and basic theme tools. You can reinstall it without fear. It does not detect basicthemer6 by neptune. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on May 19, 2024 23:41:47 GMT -8
It does not detect basicthemer6 by neptune. I think I'll recompile BasicThemer5, not to feel safe, but to end this stupid debate once and for all. Upon its release BasicThemer5 was detected by many antiviruses, at a time when Alcatel did not blame the community.
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Post by Brawllux on May 20, 2024 0:35:53 GMT -8
It does not detect basicthemer6 by neptune. I think I'll recompile BasicThemer5, not to feel safe, but to end this stupid debate once and for all. Upon its release BasicThemer5 was detected by many antiviruses, at a time when Alcatel did not blame the community.
I said this because you said every basic themer gets detected. I also know that BT2-3-4-5 all get detected,but BT6 does not get detected. There is no "stupid debate" for you to end. |
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Post by wartronica on May 20, 2024 1:02:57 GMT -8
I think I'll recompile BasicThemer5, not to feel safe, but to end this stupid debate once and for all. Upon its release BasicThemer5 was detected by many antiviruses, at a time when Alcatel did not blame the community.
I said this because you said every basic themer gets detected. I also know that BT2-3-4-5 all get detected,but BT6 does not get detected. There is no "stupid debate" for you to end. Should I delete BasicThemer 2? Windows Defender and Malwarebytes didn't detect it was a virus. |
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Post by Brawllux on May 20, 2024 2:13:34 GMT -8
I said this because you said every basic themer gets detected. I also know that BT2-3-4-5 all get detected,but BT6 does not get detected. There is no "stupid debate" for you to end. Should I delete BasicThemer 2? Windows Defender and Malwarebytes didn't detect it was a virus. Basicthemer2 is safe, it's just defender being annoying. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on May 20, 2024 2:43:39 GMT -8
I said this because you said every basic themer gets detected. I also know that BT2-3-4-5 all get detected,but BT6 does not get detected. There is no "stupid debate" for you to end. I was talking about the "Is BasicThemer5 Dangerous" debate. I wasn't talking about the debate over antivirus detections. |
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Post by Brawllux on May 20, 2024 3:25:36 GMT -8
I said this because you said every basic themer gets detected. I also know that BT2-3-4-5 all get detected,but BT6 does not get detected. There is no "stupid debate" for you to end. I was talking about the "Is BasicThemer5 Dangerous" debate. I wasn't talking about the debate over antivirus detections. Like i said before. There are lots of people who does not check the codes of the programs/mods they install. If Alcatel ever tries to do something like this again it will be too late to warn them. There was an opportunity to lead people to known trusted alternatives but it looks like you are trying your best to prevent this. I am trying to minimize the risk for everyone here. |
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Post by nikita28347 on May 20, 2024 11:52:11 GMT -8
Alcatel sent token loggers to lots of people and committed numerous cyber crimes. Literally leaked people's personal information and sent racist messages from their accounts. The program he used is a custom build of DWMBLURGLASS. If the build of DWMBLURGLASS you are using is NOT from the official repository or it's version is 3.0 delete it IMMEDIATELY,change all of your account passwords and do a full scan on your computer. Do not use any themes,Windhawk mods,dll patches or basically anything by Alcatel if you value your accounts security and your personal information.
Mods and Admins this is a pretty serious situation so please pin this if possible.
Stay away from these programs/mods/places:
Jeez, he also stole glass8 and the glass8.eu website?! |
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Post by The Jackal on May 20, 2024 12:17:05 GMT -8
Alcatel sent token loggers to lots of people and committed numerous cyber crimes. Literally leaked people's personal information and sent racist messages from their accounts. The program he used is a custom build of DWMBLURGLASS. If the build of DWMBLURGLASS you are using is NOT from the official repository or it's version is 3.0 delete it IMMEDIATELY,change all of your account passwords and do a full scan on your computer. Do not use any themes,Windhawk mods,dll patches or basically anything by Alcatel if you value your accounts security and your personal information.
Mods and Admins this is a pretty serious situation so please pin this if possible.
Stay away from these programs/mods/places:
Jeez, he also stole glass8 and the glass8.eu website?! More like just reuploaded the site on their server. |
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Post by nikita28347 on May 20, 2024 12:43:06 GMT -8
Jeez, he also stole glass8 and the glass8.eu website?! More like just reuploaded the site on their server. Oh, now I understand. |
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