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Post by anixx on Sept 6, 2024 19:10:41 GMT -8
Maybe we could use old W11 explorer (still contains the old taskbar) together with old EP? (As new builds flag 24H2 as impossible to use old taskbar.) Or - maybe this is possible with Windhawk: (old) Explorer.exe could draw the old taskbar while original explorer would be still in its place (treated with EP and/or Windhawk mods, to be Classic Theme) + start menu with Open-Shell. Old Win11 taskbar does not start on later Win11. Only the one from Win10 does. |
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Post by aldon on Sept 7, 2024 3:19:10 GMT -8
The network icon is missing because Microsoft crippled/removed pnidui.dll and/or van.dll What about just add those missing dlls (from same win build as explorer)? Together with problematic twinui.pcshell.dll? (Mentioned by Legofan with error screenshot). Old Win11 taskbar does not start on later Win11. Only the one from Win10 does.I know it is not starting. But there are specific reasons for that - so removing them would allow us to start W11 explorer. We do not know why there is a problem, but others may know. Maybe EP devs? Or MDL (there are guys who know Windows structure really deep) forums? |
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Legofan
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OS: Windows 11 24H2
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 / Intel Pentium Gold 4425Y
RAM: 64GB / 8 GB
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti / IGPU
Computer Make/Model: Custom Built / Surface Go 2
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Post by Legofan on Sept 7, 2024 5:56:34 GMT -8
The network icon is missing because Microsoft crippled/removed pnidui.dll and/or van.dll What about just add those missing dlls (from same win build as explorer)? Together with problematic twinui.pcshell.dll? (Mentioned by Legofan with error screenshot). Old Win11 taskbar does not start on later Win11. Only the one from Win10 does.I know it is not starting. But there are specific reasons for that - so removing them would allow us to start W11 explorer. We do not know why there is a problem, but others may know. Maybe EP devs? Or MDL (there are guys who know Windows structure really deep) forums? That twinui crash only happened with the last germanium build with 10 tb's explorer. |
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Post by enderboy on Sept 14, 2024 9:18:52 GMT -8
anixx all this does is this This is on the latest canary build 
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Legofan
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Embrace modernity? Nah, embrace tradition.
Posts: 171
OS: Windows 11 24H2
Theme: Default
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 / Intel Pentium Gold 4425Y
RAM: 64GB / 8 GB
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti / IGPU
Computer Make/Model: Custom Built / Surface Go 2
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Post by Legofan on Sept 16, 2024 4:12:18 GMT -8
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Post by enderboy on Sept 16, 2024 6:25:37 GMT -8
I use this mod, default win 11 taskbar and that’s all it does, look at the taskbar |
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Legofan
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Embrace modernity? Nah, embrace tradition.
Posts: 171
OS: Windows 11 24H2
Theme: Default
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 / Intel Pentium Gold 4425Y
RAM: 64GB / 8 GB
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti / IGPU
Computer Make/Model: Custom Built / Surface Go 2
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Post by Legofan on Sept 16, 2024 6:26:54 GMT -8
I use this mod, default win 11 taskbar and that’s all it does, look at the taskbar Why though? This isn't for the 11 Taskbar. |
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Post by enderboy on Sept 16, 2024 6:41:17 GMT -8
I use this mod, default win 11 taskbar and that’s all it does, look at the taskbar Why though? This isn't for the 11 Taskbar. But this is to enable win 10 taskbar on win 11, what else do I have to do? |
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Post by anixx on Sept 16, 2024 6:55:14 GMT -8
Try to enable injecting critical system processes in the Windhawk settings - it turns out to be necessary. You should remove critical system processes from the exclusion list. Also, it is not compatible with ExplorerPatcher (but this should not make any harm: EP will just not load when this mod is active). |
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Oct 29, 2024 19:05:12 GMT -8
Please excuse my English.
I first installed Fake Explorer path and then Enables Win10 taskbar on Win11 24H2 but nothing happened, the Windows 11 taskbar remained.
What could be the reason for this or what did I do wrong?
The Windows version is Windows 11 24h2 Build 26 100.2161
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Post by enderboy on Oct 29, 2024 23:09:08 GMT -8
Please excuse my English. I first installed Fake Explorer path and then Enables Win10 taskbar on Win11 24H2 but nothing happened, the Windows 11 taskbar remained. What could be the reason for this or what did I do wrong? The Windows version is Windows 11 24h2 Build 26 100.2161 Try removing the critical system processes from the windhawk exclusion list |
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Oct 30, 2024 10:48:49 GMT -8
Please excuse my English. I first installed Fake Explorer path and then Enables Win10 taskbar on Win11 24H2 but nothing happened, the Windows 11 taskbar remained. What could be the reason for this or what did I do wrong? The Windows version is Windows 11 24h2 Build 26 100.2161 Try removing the critical system processes from the windhawk exclusion list And how exactly do you do that? |
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Post by enderboy on Oct 30, 2024 12:27:58 GMT -8
Try removing the critical system processes from the windhawk exclusion list And how exactly do you do that? Windhawk settings, advanced settings, remove critical system processes from exclusion list |
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Oct 30, 2024 16:23:56 GMT -8
And how exactly do you do that? Windhawk settings, advanced settings, remove critical system processes from exclusion list
This should be the setting, right?
But the mod is not started, so nothing happens and even after a restart
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Post by enderboy on Oct 31, 2024 0:23:13 GMT -8
Windhawk settings, advanced settings, remove critical system processes from exclusion list See the <critical_system_processes>, remove that, then it should work, if not, maybe ask Anixx |
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Oct 31, 2024 16:18:44 GMT -8
It worked
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Nov 1, 2024 18:13:53 GMT -8
<critical_system_processes> removing in the Windhawk settings worked.
However, I find it a little unsafe to remove critical system processes.
In addition, the start menu is no longer on the left but in the middle above the taskbar.
Restarting Windows Explorer.exe via the task manager is no longer possible, only End Task works and the screen remains blank until you start Explorer manually (via the task manager). In addition, the context menu of the taskbar no longer works properly (start button, time, free area of the taskbar, info center does not work with a right click and active applications do not work with a left or right click, so it does not open if you want to create multiple desktops).
And last but not least, the language setting pops up in the top left corner every time you restart.
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Post by enderboy on Nov 2, 2024 0:31:16 GMT -8
<critical_system_processes> removing in the Windhawk settings worked. However, I find it a little unsafe to remove critical system processes. In addition, the start menu is no longer on the left but in the middle above the taskbar. Restarting Windows Explorer.exe via the task manager is no longer possible, only End Task works and the screen remains blank until you start Explorer manually (via the task manager). In addition, the context menu of the taskbar no longer works properly (start button, time, free area of the taskbar, info center does not work with a right click and active applications do not work with a left or right click, so it does not open if you want to create multiple desktops). And last but not least, the language setting pops up in the top left corner every time you restart. That’s what you have to cope with when it comes to a windows 10 taskbar on windows 11 24h2, that’s nothing to do with critical system processes |
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hotti
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Post by hotti on Nov 2, 2024 16:10:29 GMT -8
<critical_system_processes> removing in the Windhawk settings worked. However, I find it a little unsafe to remove critical system processes. In addition, the start menu is no longer on the left but in the middle above the taskbar. Restarting Windows Explorer.exe via the task manager is no longer possible, only End Task works and the screen remains blank until you start Explorer manually (via the task manager). In addition, the context menu of the taskbar no longer works properly (start button, time, free area of the taskbar, info center does not work with a right click and active applications do not work with a left or right click, so it does not open if you want to create multiple desktops). And last but not least, the language setting pops up in the top left corner every time you restart. That’s what you have to cope with when it comes to a windows 10 taskbar on windows 11 24h2, that’s nothing to do with critical system processes Thank you for the information. But how do I solve the problems? |
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Post by Brawllux on Nov 2, 2024 16:46:25 GMT -8
That’s what you have to cope with when it comes to a windows 10 taskbar on windows 11 24h2, that’s nothing to do with critical system processes Thank you for the information. But how do I solve the problems? Downgrading explorer itself will cause problems, since this mod is still kinda experimental i would recommend you to use latest version of Explorer Patcher, which has a reimplemented 10 taskbar. |
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