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Post by grenlock on Dec 6, 2020 19:05:17 GMT -8
Which message specifically? "Unhandled exception occcured" or "Unhandled exception occured while drawing GUI"? Unhandled exception occurred while drawing GUI There's no Windows Event Log. I would create a x64dbg log (sometimes it can shed some light) but because the exe for SCTT can only be launched from within SCT I don't think it's possible to do that. However I just now noticed that there are crash logs in the "Taskbar" directory where SCT_Taskbar.exe resides. Here they are: www42.zippyshare.com/v/qu8sWgHO/file.html |
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Post by leet on Dec 7, 2020 14:02:18 GMT -8
I've only said this to the users on Discord, but I intentionally don't user Windows Event logs but rather my own log files. For crashes while drawing GUI you can find the crash report here:
C:\SCT\Taskbar\crash*dateandtime*.log
Send me that file in a PM
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Post by leet on Dec 12, 2020 7:17:01 GMT -8
I have an announcement to make regarding SCT and SCTT development:
docs.google.com/document/d/1bIiNlueoARR6m_4srsqrvTEgFvaojuFHKz0jOfe5Tbc/edit
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Post by ihatemetro on Dec 12, 2020 7:33:08 GMT -8
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Post by travis on Dec 12, 2020 9:26:52 GMT -8
Random SCTT Tip:
To organize system tray icons, disable "Always show all icons in notification area" in the system tray settings. Turning off a tray icon on it won't show the tray icon. This is especially useful for programs that doesn't have a option to turn off the tray icon.
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Post by grenlock on Dec 18, 2020 8:08:04 GMT -8
Completely walking away and taking a month or two off then coming back to the code for a fresh look is actually a normal part of development.  It's also a normal part of most jobs where something new or modified is being created, regardless of what it is (physical, digital, etc.). For example it helps to clear any tunnel vision that is normal for most people to get. I noticed that SCTT is always using about 10% of the CPU resources, and that's on a 8 core machine. I'm guessing this has something to do with the "managed .NET code"? SCTT is something that is badly needed for people like me, and I will probably continue to use it even if its current state ends up being the final one! |
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Post by leet on Dec 18, 2020 8:14:19 GMT -8
I noticed that SCTT is always using about 10% of the CPU resources, and that's on a 8 core machine. I'm guessing this has something to do with the "managed .NET code"? Pretty much. Part of it is me not destroying objects in code myself, so the GC has to do it. |
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veselcraft
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OS: Windows 10 LTSB
Theme: Win 2k
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Post by veselcraft on Dec 27, 2020 12:16:02 GMT -8
What is this? I'm trying to use last version that was downloaded from GitHub
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Post by ihatemetro on Dec 27, 2020 14:02:15 GMT -8
What is this? I'm trying to use last version that was downloaded from GitHub
You need the SCT Private Alpha, which only a select few people have. There is an older version of SCTT though, that works without the private beta. Here's the download link for the older version: www.winclassic.net/thread/740/simple-classic-taskbar-download-link |
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Post by bradley3398 on Dec 30, 2020 9:44:49 GMT -8
can i join the private build
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Post by leet on Dec 30, 2020 16:21:38 GMT -8
I'm currently not accepting any new members, you'll have to wait.
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Post by leet on Jan 7, 2021 9:48:16 GMT -8
Unhandled exception occurred while drawing GUI There's no Windows Event Log. I would create a x64dbg log (sometimes it can shed some light) but because the exe for SCTT can only be launched from within SCT I don't think it's possible to do that. However I just now noticed that there are crash logs in the "Taskbar" directory where SCT_Taskbar.exe resides. Here they are: www42.zippyshare.com/v/qu8sWgHO/file.htmlI'm reacting to this super late, but the crash reports do shed some light on what's happening. On your system there's 2 issues with SCTT: SCTT doesn't like a specific window (Maybe a splash loading screen of some program, or a toolbox). SCTT doesn't like a specific systray icon. Both of these I cannot fix without more debug info. Are you still getting these crashes by any chance (I know it's been a month)?
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Post by grenlock on Jan 20, 2021 17:08:49 GMT -8
Whoops, sorry for such a late response.
Yes, I'm still getting the crashes. For example, pCloud Drive causes a crash. AFAIK it doesn't have a splash screen or anything like that. Works on Windows 7 without issue. Right now the workaround is to launch SCT GUI and simply hit the "Enable" button, which re-launches SCTT.
(I also have an entry in EnableThemeScript.bat that kills and restarts all explorer.exe's:
REM ===================================
REM Programs to run after
REM enabling classic theme
REM ===================================
timeout 2
taskkill /F /IM explorer.exe
timeout 2
start explorer)
FlashFXP on the other hand (for example) uses a system tray icon and has a right-click context menu, and that runs on SCTT without any crashes or issues.
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Post by leet on Jan 21, 2021 0:57:57 GMT -8
I personally don't use pCloud Drive, but I will put it on the list with programs that make SCTT malfunction.
The script to restart explorer has 2 minor issues. First, the timeouts are unnecessary as Classic Theme enables instantly. Secondly, SCT literally implements this routine automatically. You would just be restarting explorer twice and waiting at least 4 more seconds if you used it.
The reason why FlashFXP works better is because it uses a simpler UI. It uses mostly native controls and doesn't do weird rendering shenanigans. Will look into it!
Also, did you find the issue with the tray icon?
Finally I want to say thank you to all SCT Alpha testers. Your feedback really makes it easier to get issues solved and to find issues inside the programs. Both SCT and SCTT. For now I won't release any new builds of SCTT until it goes into public BETA*. If you can find more issues with SCTT please do tell me, I want to continue developing SCTT and making it a good Classic Taskbar. Also: Jva##jf KC f#ly# ##htva.
(*) I don't want to publish SCTT as a 'release' yet as it's still far from finished and lacks a lot of functionality.
EDIT:
I also want to state something about the moving to C++. I have stated multiple times that the managed .NET code of SCTT causes a lot of performance issues and makes the program slow. I want to state that this is only part of the problem. The biggest part is me not destroying objects in code, which causes .NET to run the GC more. This adds unnecessary load to your pc, which is not good. Moving to C++ not only fixes the first issue (managed code being slower), but also the second issue. Because C++ doesn't have a garbage collector I am forced to destroy objects, otherwise there will be memory leaks which is bad.
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Post by leet on Feb 6, 2021 14:47:58 GMT -8
SCTT can now publicly be installed from inside of SCT starting from version 1.2.0.
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Post by anixx on Feb 6, 2021 15:58:17 GMT -8
SCT has taskbar button text placed too high.
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Post by aldon on Feb 25, 2021 10:45:26 GMT -8
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Post by leet on Feb 26, 2021 4:09:04 GMT -8
You have to manually select SCTT in the Options menu |
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aldon
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Post by aldon on Feb 27, 2021 15:21:03 GMT -8
I did of course... :/
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Post by leet on Feb 28, 2021 6:56:00 GMT -8
Does it work now?
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It's also a normal part of most jobs where something new or modified is being created, regardless of what it is (physical, digital, etc.). For example it helps to clear any tunnel vision that is normal for most people to get.
