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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 5:14:02 GMT -8
Hey if anyone needs a full conversion kit working on 1909 I have complied an in-depth package with tutorials (via read me files) with everything you need including modified .mun files (new files to replace images normally found in .dll files) working Aero glass feature and registry files to change many things including the old school clock which was thought to not be working in build 1909 all of which I am running on build 1909 I should be able to email you the compressed file which includes everything you need. And if you have any questions you can always ask I am currently on data on my phone as I am in the process of updating my internet once it's back up I will upload the file directly.
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 16, 2021 6:49:44 GMT -8
Old School Clock only works with StartIsBack++, unless if you found some weird DLL injection method. To get the Vista searchbox back on 1909 you need mach2.exe. Even then, you still HAVE to deal with inconsistencies, for example the title bar will continue to have gigantic buttons. There is already a guide here: www.winclassic.net/thread/689/any-make-windows-exactly-same (But for older versions) If you have any extras, then feel free to post them.
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 8:53:23 GMT -8
Yes it is perfectly injected into 1909 but I don't have internet yet I'm waiting for the upgrade to my service I will upload the package I've created as soon as I can.
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 9:09:26 GMT -8
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 9:46:50 GMT -8
I have read your post it was actually what inspired me to post here I had been looking for a place to post my compilation and share my work with people (and others work as well whom I have given them the credit they deserve in the package).
As well please note that after reviewing the main readme I noticed that I forgot to update the text that I have not tested it on 1909 but the screenshot does confirm that it is working on 1909
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 16, 2021 13:55:29 GMT -8
Not available??? If it's less than 1MB you can post the file directly to the forum.
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 17:31:14 GMT -8
It's a 43mb file
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 16, 2021 17:55:11 GMT -8
Okay try this rainonit.com/2RLH Like I said I'm on my phone it's tough atm Had to do it through adfly
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 3:26:29 GMT -8
Last link redirects me to Ali Express.
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Post by cattlelyst on Apr 17, 2021 6:51:14 GMT -8
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 17, 2021 7:55:02 GMT -8
Some extras to supplement the other things:
a. This will disable the gigantic search box and restore the search box that was used in Explorer from Vista to Windows 10 1903. This will not work in 2004+. For 2004+, see this thread on how to get the former search functionality (not look) here: www.winclassic.net/thread/635/restoring-classic-address-before-1909 (second post). This will make the inbulit explorer search function work in Classic Theme as well.
Go to the directory where mach2.exe is placed and run this command as administrator: mach2 disable 18755234
Restart explorer (maybe) and you are done. Mileage may vary. I would recommend creating a scheduled task or a auto-elevated batch file at logon. If you have Group Policy, you could also have it be a script (batch file) to run it directly at startup.
b. This will let the system identify itself as "Windows 7". This will not break programs, as they ALWAYS check for the NT number (which will always be 10.0), but sometimes will check for Windows 10 version number in registry as well, where if you modify it it will break some programs.
Part 1: Modifying version string
1. Get ExecTI: winaero.com/execti/2. Open Resource Hacker with it. The path is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Resource Hacker\resourcehacker.exe"
3. Open C:\Windows\Branding\basebrd\en-US\basebrd.dll.mui
4. Navigate through the "String Table" and look for your version of Windows there (Windows 10 Home, Pro, etc.) and replace it with Windows 7 xxx (XXX could be Ultimate, Professional, Home Basic, etc. It does not have to match your version.) This could really be anything you want, for example it could be Windows XP Professional, Windows 2000 Advanced Server, etc.
5. After you have replaced the string, save it. it will automatically create a backup.
Part 2: Modifying winver dialog
1. Get Windows 7 (any version) basebrd.dll. You will have to extract it from whatever version you want it to be, for example if you want your system to identify as Windows 7 Ultimate you will need to get a Windows 7 Ultimate ISO.
2. Extract the bitmaps.
3. Open C:\Windows\Branding\basebrd\basebrd.dll
4. Modify corresponding bitmaps based on DPI. If you have normal DPI, it is bitmap 123. For medium dpi, it is 1123. For higher dpi, you will need 2123. I'm pretty sure Windows 7's basebrd.dll has the same layout as well, or at least 3 different dpi levels in basebrd.dll.
5. Save it.
Part 3: Modifying Control Panel branding
1. Get Windows 7 shellbrd.dll (again, any version, this time it doesn't matter)
2. Extract the bitmaps.
3. Open C:\Windows\Branding\shellbrd\shellbrd.dll
4. Replace corresponding bitmaps, again with corresponding DPI. The black and pink "Windows 10" logo should be replaced with the Classic-Looking blue monitor logo with the pink background (Basically, the same logo as if you were running Windows XP in 16 colours). The bitmaps for the DPIs are 1100, 2100, and 3100. The black and pink logos are the normal logos +10 (1110, 2110, 3110).
5. Done
Part 4: Registry
1. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Sortware\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion.
2. Modify the string with your version (Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, etc.)
3. (OPTIONAL) You can modify the build strings as well as the version number (1909, 1903, 1607, etc.) to have it show up on winver, but it's not recommended, as build strings will reset and version number can break certain programs (for example, task scheduler will think you're running Windows 7).
c. Enable Vista boot screen (MBR/Legacy boot or hybrid UEFI/CSM boot). This may prevent chkdsk from working at boot, so you might need a "Recovery Partition" with WinPE on it to chkdsk. This will only display a black screen if you don't have CSM enabled.
1. Run this command: bcdedit /set graphicsmodedisabled yes
2. Done.
Any future modifications will be posted here.
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 10:15:39 GMT -8
What is that Mach2 utility for? Does it work in Win8.1? Is there a list of the tweak somewhere?
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 17, 2021 10:57:30 GMT -8
What is that Mach2 utility for? Does it work in Win8.1? Is there a list of the tweak somewhere? Mach2 is for disabling/enabling certain features of Windows, mainly in insider builds and sometimes main releases. For example, the new search box in 1909 was just a feature you could disable, and was enabled by the 1909 update. It was always in 1903, just disabled. I'm pretty sure it does not work in Windows 8.1. A list of features you can disable/enable is available here, by build: github.com/riverar/mach2/tree/master/features
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 11:05:46 GMT -8
Surun:https://sourceforge.net/projects/surun/
Does it work on Win10?
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 17, 2021 11:24:27 GMT -8
Surun:https://sourceforge.net/projects/surun/ Does it work on Win10? It does work on Windows 10, and it could be a good alternative for UAC in 1703+, for example with DWM off. Though if you're suggesting it for an alternative for ExecTI, I cannot unlock the "User name" box for whatever reason, so I can't put "NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaller" there.
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 11:30:08 GMT -8
I am suggesting it as an alternative for UAC box, thanks very much for trying it!
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 11:34:00 GMT -8
Can you make a screenshot of it running under Classic theme?
Does it uninstall well?
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 17, 2021 11:54:14 GMT -8
Can you make a screenshot of it running under Classic theme? Does it uninstall well? Surun uses a varient of secure desktop so I wasn't able to capture it well. It just looks like what you see on the "Project Samples" page except with Classic Theme elements and borders. The bottom part where it has your user name follows the colour scheme of dialog boxes, while the top part is permanently white.
Here's a screenshot from an XP VM (ignore undersized fonts): And yes, it uninstalls fine, leaving no traces.
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Post by anixx on Apr 17, 2021 11:57:46 GMT -8
When trying to install it it suggests some policy changes, what do you think about it? Does it revert them on uninstall?
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Post by ihatemetro on Apr 17, 2021 12:09:38 GMT -8
When trying to install it it suggests some policy changes, what do you think about it? Does it revert them on uninstall? I think it sets the policy via Registry instead, where if you uninstall it it removes it, but I'm not entirely sure since I don't use permissions. Edit: After scouring the internet it seems that that policy only exists on XP AFAIK, as I cannot find where it is located.
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