eriorry
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Post by eriorry on Jan 28, 2024 14:37:20 GMT -8
Try this one.
This one has the "Go" button though, i think the only proper way would be to have it configurable with an on/off toggle. I am not much of a coder thus i have no idea how to implement this, but it would be nice if the extension had a menu which allowed to choose throbber design/"go" button icon and toggle options. I think this extention has a potential to grow, after all expanded treeview and actual "go" button functionality are missing, and if webview/xp sidebar is added to it eventually, that would be endgame for sure
Thank you. it works perfect for me.  your go button is much bather than transparent one that i used. its very suitable and nice.
now i should find a way to add border around toolbar , address bar, menu bar and main part of windows explorer that is too flat here.
to get those borders install this windhawk mod gitdab.com/Cynosphere/WindhawkMods/src/branch/main/classic-theme-explorer.wh.cpp |
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raminmahzad
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Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Jan 28, 2024 20:30:33 GMT -8
Is that work on windows 7 sp1 64bit ?
I try windhawk for something else before but noting happens in to my windows.
I hope there is a direct way to do this without the need for third-party software. Or at least it can be done by AHK.
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clara
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Post by clara on Jan 28, 2024 23:36:06 GMT -8
I hope there is a direct way to do this without the need for third-party software. Or at least it can be done by AHK.
AHK was the only option to do this for a while. You can find this method around here if you look. Not sure it works on Win7 though. Third-party software is the only way to do this, i think, since Micro$oft started butchering the classic theme around WinVista-7 period, such as removing clientedge and toolbar borders in particular. |
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raminmahzad
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Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Jan 30, 2024 7:27:56 GMT -8
I hope there is a direct way to do this without the need for third-party software. Or at least it can be done by AHK.
AHK was the only option to do this for a while. You can find this method around here if you look. Not sure it works on Win7 though. Third-party software is the only way to do this, i think, since Micro$oft started butchering the classic theme around WinVista-7 period, such as removing clientedge and toolbar borders in particular. AHK Is working on windows 7 I can add it to Windows startup for permanent use.
But I don't know why, even though Windhawk can be installed on Windows 7, when I install any mod, the changes are not applied. Maybe I'm not doing the steps right
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eriorry
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Post by eriorry on Jan 30, 2024 8:03:52 GMT -8
AHK was the only option to do this for a while. You can find this method around here if you look. Not sure it works on Win7 though. Third-party software is the only way to do this, i think, since Micro$oft started butchering the classic theme around WinVista-7 period, such as removing clientedge and toolbar borders in particular. AHK Is working on windows 7 I can add it to Windows startup for permanent use.
But I don't know why, even though Windhawk can be installed on Windows 7, when I install any mod, the changes are not applied. Maybe I'm not doing the steps right
windhawk mods are made for windows 10 or 11, if you want to use any of those mods you have to switch to 10 |
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raminmahzad
Freshman Member
Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Jan 30, 2024 8:53:04 GMT -8
AHK Is working on windows 7 I can add it to Windows startup for permanent use.
But I don't know why, even though Windhawk can be installed on Windows 7, when I install any mod, the changes are not applied. Maybe I'm not doing the steps right
windhawk mods are made for windows 10 or 11, if you want to use any of those mods you have to switch to 10 in windows 7 i have original Microsoft windows classic theme with 3dborders. And with a few changes, it can easily be completely similar to Windows 98, but on newer Windows, I need to install more mods, hack more system files, and apply more changes, and as a result, have more bugs to make it look like windows 98 |
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clara
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Post by clara on Jan 30, 2024 9:06:19 GMT -8
That's debatable, although some ppl do encounter bugs sometimes (as far as my reading history here goes, i don't remember anything critical to system functioning), i don't think Windows 7 has that much of an advantage, considering that besides having classic theme easily accessible, the rest of modifications are very much the same and the current methods on Win10 are much more efficient compared to AHK.
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raminmahzad
Freshman Member
Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Feb 2, 2024 0:59:55 GMT -8
That's debatable, although some ppl do encounter bugs sometimes (as far as my reading history here goes, i don't remember anything critical to system functioning), i don't think Windows 7 has that much of an advantage, considering that besides having classic theme easily accessible, the rest of modifications are very much the same and the current methods on Win10 are much more efficient compared to AHK. If it's really that good, it's worth a try. The last time I tested Windows 10 with the software witch called simple classic theme (SCT) witch installs the classic theme on windows 10, I ran into so many bugs that I regretted it, but now maybe it's better than a few years ago. |
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Post by anixx on Feb 2, 2024 1:41:25 GMT -8
windhawk mods are made for windows 10 or 11, if you want to use any of those mods you have to switch to 10 in windows 7 i have original Microsoft windows classic theme with 3dborders. And with a few changes, it can easily be completely similar to Windows 98, but on newer Windows, I need to install more mods, hack more system files, and apply more changes, and as a result, have more bugs to make it look like windows 98 On Windows 7 the use of Classic theme disables the harware acceleration, which leads to tearing and high CPU usage. Also, there are glitches in Classic theme under Win7, such as parasite dot on tab buttons and garbage on the bottom-right resize handle of Explorer windows.
Also, tthere is no Windhawk, so many other fixes will be unavailable, such as XP-style file picker and other stuff.
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Post by anixx on Feb 2, 2024 1:46:04 GMT -8
windhawk mods are made for windows 10 or 11, if you want to use any of those mods you have to switch to 10 in windows 7 i have original Microsoft windows classic theme with 3dborders. And with a few changes, it can easily be completely similar to Windows 98, but on newer Windows, I need to install more mods, hack more system files, and apply more changes, and as a result, have more bugs to make it look like windows 98 What hacking of system files do you mean? The only hack needed so far is ShellStyle.dll (to remove the command bar), but it was needed in Win7 as well. |
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Feb 2, 2024 4:08:55 GMT -8
Now the only element that works better in the classic theme with Windows 7 (and Windows 8) than Windows 10/11 is the taskbar.
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raminmahzad
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Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Feb 2, 2024 4:53:19 GMT -8
in windows 7 i have original Microsoft windows classic theme with 3dborders. And with a few changes, it can easily be completely similar to Windows 98, but on newer Windows, I need to install more mods, hack more system files, and apply more changes, and as a result, have more bugs to make it look like windows 98 What hacking of system files do you mean? The only hack needed so far is ShellStyle.dll (to remove the command bar), but it was needed in Win7 as well. I hacked Imageres.dll ، shell32.dll , for icons and logon screen background and startup sound . Shellstyle.dll for command bar. explorerframe.dll for 32 * 32 pix non blurry icons in folders. I hacked many *.cpl for classic icons of control panel items. some *.cpl.mui for control panel dialogs
many of *.dll.mui in en-us folder for windows dialogs and menus and right click shells.
authui.dll for logon screen
pnidui.dll for wifi icon batmeter.dll for power icon sondvolsso.dll for sound icon
i replace all windows games with windows 98 ones
i replace paint.exe claclulator.exe wordpad and notepad
also i edit photoviewer.dll
and many other things that i cant remmeber now.
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zxcv1234
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OS: Windows 10 1809 LTSC
Theme: Aero Basic
CPU: Intel Core i5 10400F
RAM: 16GB DDR4
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
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Post by zxcv1234 on Feb 18, 2024 17:35:56 GMT -8
I replace Throbber Icon with resource hacker with windows 98 version but But the ugly white band around it remains I also made the Go button invisible by replacing bitmap with blank and i replace go in string table with a dot, but I feel that instead of making it invisible, the address bar should be stretched to the end of the window Edge.
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raminmahzad
Freshman Member
Posts: 33
OS: Windows 7 64bit / Windows 98 SE
Theme: CLassic
CPU: Intel 4710HQ I7
RAM: 16
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 850M - Intel HD 4600
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Post by raminmahzad on Feb 18, 2024 19:32:49 GMT -8
I replace Throbber Icon with resource hacker with windows 98 version but But the ugly white band around it remains I also made the Go button invisible by replacing bitmap with blank and i replace go in string table with a dot, but I feel that instead of making it invisible, the address bar should be stretched to the end of the window Edge.
Are you using SiB taskbar? How do you have Sans Serif there?
No need any third party software. Just right-click on the desktop and go to Personalize (Former Desktop Properties) If your theme is not set to the classic theme, be sure to set it to the classic theme. then click on the windows Color. then you can change the fonts of Any part of Windows you want. for taskbar i think you have to change font of Menu Item. If you have not Microsoft Sans Serif Font in the list you can download or can get it from your old PC or virtual machine with an old orating system like windows 98 or 2000 and install that font on your new pc with newer windows but i think New Windows still have this font unless it has been accidentally deleted or you are using a specific version of Windows that does not include this font.
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Post by tech4090 on Mar 13, 2024 8:52:35 GMT -8
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Post by TechSalt on Mar 27, 2024 13:55:31 GMT -8
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Mar 27, 2024 16:22:32 GMT -8
Yeah, sorry, my GitHub account got terminated. I can send you the latest copy of the source code if you don't already have it.
Edit: Nevermind. You got the archive from Windows XP, so that *is* the latest copy of the source code.
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 27, 2024 19:22:40 GMT -8
That's debatable, although some ppl do encounter bugs sometimes (as far as my reading history here goes, i don't remember anything critical to system functioning), i don't think Windows 7 has that much of an advantage, considering that besides having classic theme easily accessible, the rest of modifications are very much the same and the current methods on Win10 are much more efficient compared to AHK. If it's really that good, it's worth a try. The last time I tested Windows 10 with the software witch called simple classic theme (SCT) witch installs the classic theme on windows 10, I ran into so many bugs that I regretted it, but now maybe it's better than a few years ago. I don't know if SCT ever worked for anyone in a satisfactory fashion.
I think with Windhawk it has become a LITTLE easier do apply everything that needs to be applied in order to enjoy a rather normal looking classic theme but it's still a lot more work than just choosing a classic theme on Windows 7.
So if you're happy with Windows 7, I would stick to Windows 7.
I've only switched from Windows 7 to Windows 10/11 a few months ago myself. Not because Windows 7 lacked anything but because I know that it will become harder in the future to run recent applications like modern browsers and everything.
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 27, 2024 19:38:31 GMT -8
in windows 7 i have original Microsoft windows classic theme with 3dborders. And with a few changes, it can easily be completely similar to Windows 98, but on newer Windows, I need to install more mods, hack more system files, and apply more changes, and as a result, have more bugs to make it look like windows 98 On Windows 7 the use of Classic theme disables the harware acceleration, which leads to tearing and high CPU usage. Also, there are glitches in Classic theme under Win7, such as parasite dot on tab buttons and garbage on the bottom-right resize handle of Explorer windows.
I really can't confirm that.
There is DirectX hardware acceleration and there is hardware acceleration in Firefox. I also can't see any "garbage" on the resize handle...
But there is one thing about Windows Vista's and 7's aero theme:
The (transparent) Aero theme will only be available if you have a graphics card that is capable enough, because it uses the GPU (aka hardware acceleration) to render the transparent borders and the whole theme. Otherwise you'll just have Aero Basic. But when you use the classic theme, you don't need a great graphics card because the theme isn't rendered by the GPU (so without hardware acceleration) but that doesn't mean that hardware acceleration isn't available with classic theme in Windows 7. I do however remember people who said that it's better to use the Aero theme because it's faster (because it's rendered by the GPU) but I really can't tell a difference performance-wise.
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Mar 28, 2024 11:51:41 GMT -8
On Windows 7 the use of Classic theme disables the harware acceleration, which leads to tearing and high CPU usage. Also, there are glitches in Classic theme under Win7, such as parasite dot on tab buttons and garbage on the bottom-right resize handle of Explorer windows.
I really can't confirm that.
There is DirectX hardware acceleration and there is hardware acceleration in Firefox. I also can't see any "garbage" on the resize handle...
But there is one thing about Windows Vista's and 7's aero theme:
The (transparent) Aero theme will only be available if you have a graphics card that is capable enough, because it uses the GPU (aka hardware acceleration) to render the transparent borders and the whole theme. Otherwise you'll just have Aero Basic. But when you use the classic theme, you don't need a great graphics card because the theme isn't rendered by the GPU (so without hardware acceleration) but that doesn't mean that hardware acceleration isn't available with classic theme in Windows 7. I do however remember people who said that it's better to use the Aero theme because it's faster (because it's rendered by the GPU) but I really can't tell a difference performance-wise.
Individual programs can still benefit from hardware acceleration, but the window manager itself will use the legacy one from XP and prior instead of DWM. DWM is used for even classic and basic themes by most people on Windows 8+. |
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