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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Mar 28, 2024 15:45:28 GMT -8
Individual programs can still benefit from hardware acceleration, but the window manager itself will use the legacy one from XP and prior instead of DWM. DWM is used for even classic and basic themes by most people on Windows 8+. Additionally, using Windows without DWM has become increasingly difficult, as functions/programs relying on DWM have been added. On the other hand, the reason for the poor functioning of the old window manager under Windows 7 is twofold: increasingly powerful GPU (so there is no need to use the CPU for that) and poor management by the system; I have already seen users claiming that on the same computer, Windows XP works better than 7 with the old window manager.
What I don't know is to what extent DWM "adapts" its request to the GPU according to the requested effects. For example, if without transparency/without visual effect the demand on the GPU drops significantly.
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 28, 2024 17:48:32 GMT -8
Individual programs can still benefit from hardware acceleration, but the window manager itself will use the legacy one from XP and prior instead of DWM. DWM is used for even classic and basic themes by most people on Windows 8+. On the other hand, the reason for the poor functioning of the old window manager under Windows 7 is twofold: increasingly powerful GPU (so there is no need to use the CPU for that) and poor management by the system; I have already seen users claiming that on the same computer, Windows XP works better than 7 with the old window manager.
Poor functioning? I've never noticed that.
You could also say: There is no need to use the GPU because the classic theme won't need a very powerful GPU to render its windows.
It's nevertheless very well possible that Windows XP runs smoother than Windows 7 on some machines, simply because Windows 7 is more demanding in general.
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Post by OrthodoxWin32 on Mar 29, 2024 1:27:59 GMT -8
nonameneeded It seems to me that not all computers have a problem with the old window manager under Windows 7. Obviously, this comes from poor writing of the driver (unlike Windows XP, where it was well written), which causes compatibility issues on some PCs.
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Mar 29, 2024 13:54:36 GMT -8
nonameneeded It seems to me that not all computers have a problem with the old window manager under Windows 7. Obviously, this comes from poor writing of the driver (unlike Windows XP, where it was well written), which causes compatibility issues on some PCs. It's entirely Microsoft's fault. They got rid of hardware-accelerated GDI in Windows Vista, and then only added it back to Windows 7 under certain conditions (DWM must be running and a WDDM 1.1 driver must be used). Even with optimizations under Windows 7, GDI is still nowhere near as efficient as on Windows XP. Without optimizations, it's noticeably sluggish. |
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Post by nonameneeded on Mar 29, 2024 14:20:44 GMT -8
However, I've never noticed anything sluggish.
And I WOULD notice that, since I don't really like it.
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Post by TaglesMalsto on Apr 3, 2024 15:26:17 GMT -8
Yeah, sorry, my GitHub account got terminated. I can send you the latest copy of the source code if you don't already have it.
Edit: Nevermind. You got the archive from Windows XP, so that *is* the latest copy of the source code.
WinClassic...on GitHub how can I compile the code? with which program etc.. |
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Apr 3, 2024 17:00:18 GMT -8
Yeah, sorry, my GitHub account got terminated. I can send you the latest copy of the source code if you don't already have it.
Edit: Nevermind. You got the archive from Windows XP, so that *is* the latest copy of the source code.
WinClassic...on GitHub how can I compile the code? with which program etc.. Visual Studio |
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Post by TaglesMalsto on Apr 4, 2024 9:52:24 GMT -8
Hi, I'm new and this is the first quote on this site
WinClassic...on GitHub how can I compile the code? with which program etc.. Visual Studio I got  errors while compiling  this was my first build on Visual Studio Attachments:
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Apr 4, 2024 12:49:07 GMT -8
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Post by TaglesMalsto on Apr 4, 2024 13:37:23 GMT -8
I tried but it didn't work same problem, I don't know the program well |
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Apr 4, 2024 15:06:16 GMT -8
I tried but it didn't work same problem, I don't know the program well Sorry. I have no idea how to solve this. |
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Post by TaglesMalsto on Apr 8, 2024 3:18:34 GMT -8
I tried but it didn't work same problem, I don't know the program well Sorry. I have no idea how to solve this. I compiled it, but I can't find the exe program, however I noticed that 2 appeared in File Explorer Classic Address Bar & Throbber
Now it works! but without the program I can't configure  Attachments:
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Post by nonameneeded on Apr 8, 2024 15:24:34 GMT -8
There is nothing to configure.
It either works or it doesn't.
That's it.
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Post by waldemar21214 on Apr 19, 2024 6:07:48 GMT -8
Improved version with 3 themes that can be switched easily, text localization from system resources, and ability to disable the Go button and the Address label to the left of combobox. |
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Apr 19, 2024 8:39:43 GMT -8
Improved version with 3 themes that can be switched easily, text localization from system resources, and ability to disable the Go button and the Address label to the left of combobox.
This was so cool!
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Post by burnout92 on May 12, 2024 16:21:35 GMT -8
I did registered the DLL file with the regsvr32 command and nothing happens... Am i did something wrong?
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Post by ephemeralViolette on May 12, 2024 16:33:28 GMT -8
I did registered the DLL file with the regsvr32 command and nothing happens... Am i did something wrong? It should add toolbars to explorer. You'll need to enable these manually via the view menu (or some dropdown menu on the last page of the ribbon). |
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Post by wartronica on May 31, 2024 23:34:18 GMT -8
I keep getting this problem when using throbber:  When I enable it sometimes it will appear normal, but when closing and reopening explorer it turns into a square. |
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Post by The Jackal on Jun 1, 2024 9:02:00 GMT -8
I keep getting this problem when using throbber: When I enable it sometimes it will appear normal, but when closing and reopening explorer it turns into a square. Most likely a DPI bug. |
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Post by ephemeralViolette on Jun 1, 2024 11:24:34 GMT -8
I keep getting this problem when using throbber: When I enable it sometimes it will appear normal, but when closing and reopening explorer it turns into a square. Most likely a DPI bug. This is 96dpi, so I don't think so. The throbber scaling is just hacky and it probably doesn't work with the specific layout the user has for some reason. They seem to have broken how things like the throbber band work in IE7 and Vista explorer internet toolbar... Perhaps moving toolbars around will fix it. |
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