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Post by leet on Mar 10, 2021 13:16:35 GMT -8
Copy the taskbar files into C:\SCT\Taskbar (If it's non-existent then create that directory), then open SCT, go to File > Options, go to the bottom dropdown menu, select "SCT Taskbar (Alpha)", then press enable, and then you have the taskbar. Do not use any other classic theme solutions like ClassicThemeTray or ClassicThemeA.exe. Too complicated it gives same bullshit about sct not being installed spite of it being there in sct . This program is not really there yet it should not ask for net or sct it should just load you knowe like startisback does , its earlier versions at least loaded up i just like programs that load up without hassle this one its not for me i fear ... The idea of SCTT is that it’s an extension to SCT (hence the name). ihatemetro has overcomplicated things in his explanation a bit. Basically it replaces the old taskbar SCT used to make (OS+SiB) with my custom developed taskbar. The idea of this is that my taskbar is way more customizable than the default one. You don’t actually need to download anything, SCT will do that for you. Just open SCT, go to options and select SCT Taskbar (beta). |
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Post by powerplayer on Mar 10, 2021 14:46:31 GMT -8
Too complicated it gives same bullshit about sct not being installed spite of it being there in sct . This program is not really there yet it should not ask for net or sct it should just load you knowe like startisback does , its earlier versions at least loaded up i just like programs that load up without hassle this one its not for me i fear ... The idea of SCTT is that it’s an extension to SCT (hence the name). ihatemetro has overcomplicated things in his explanation a bit. Basically it replaces the old taskbar SCT used to make (OS+SiB) with my custom developed taskbar. The idea of this is that my taskbar is way more customizable than the default one. You don’t actually need to download anything, SCT will do that for you. Just open SCT, go to options and select SCT Taskbar (beta). Tried that sez alpha does nothing at all it just creates a folder and gives sctt not installed crap dude your taskbar failed unless there is a crack to bypass those error messages and force it open |
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Post by leet on Mar 10, 2021 15:30:25 GMT -8
Have you tried clicking "Install" (auto-launch) and running Simple Classic Theme from the start menu?
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Post by powerplayer on Mar 10, 2021 21:18:06 GMT -8
Have you tried clicking "Install" (auto-launch) and running Simple Classic Theme from the start menu? Nah that crashes the whole thing wouldnt dream of it |
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Post by leet on Mar 11, 2021 0:28:44 GMT -8
Well, that's the thing you have to fix in order to get SCT Taskbar to work. Here's an instruction if you still want to try it out:
Delete the folder C:\SCT and the registry keys HKCU\SOFTWARE\1337ftw and try again. Do the steps in this order:
1. Open SCT from the file you downloaded
2. "Install" (auto-launch)
3. Open SCT from your Start Menu.
4. Click File -> Options (or press Alt+F and then O)
5. Select SCT Taskbar (alpha) in Taskbar Type (This is still incorrectly branded as SCT Taskbar is in beta not alpha anymore)
6. It'll ask you if you want to install SCT Taskbar, press Yes
7. Click OK
8. Press Enable
SCT will auto-launch on startup, and restore classic theme to the state it was before you shut down. So if you had SCT on before shutting down in will automatically enable, and if you had SCT off it will do nothing. Whenever SCT enables it'll automatically start SCT Taskbar with elevated privileges.
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Post by powerplayer on Mar 11, 2021 7:16:14 GMT -8
too much work i just WAnted it to run over my startisback and classicthemea without hassle seems it wont happen anytime soon.
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Post by s34642542 on Mar 11, 2021 10:20:57 GMT -8
Well, that's the thing you have to fix in order to get SCT Taskbar to work. Here's an instruction if you still want to try it out: Delete the folder C:\SCT and the registry keys HKCU\SOFTWARE\1337ftw and try again. Do the steps in this order: 1. Open SCT from the file you downloaded 2. "Install" (auto-launch) 3. Open SCT from your Start Menu. 4. Click File -> Options (or press Alt+F and then O) 5. Select SCT Taskbar (alpha) in Taskbar Type (This is still incorrectly branded as SCT Taskbar is in beta not alpha anymore) 6. It'll ask you if you want to install SCT Taskbar, press Yes 7. Click OK 8. Press Enable SCT will auto-launch on startup, and restore classic theme to the state it was before you shut down. So if you had SCT on before shutting down in will automatically enable, and if you had SCT off it will do nothing. Whenever SCT enables it'll automatically start SCT Taskbar with elevated privileges. 
This is what happens for me when I do precisely what you said on a clean installation of LTSB 2016. Why isn't the taskbar working? I've also tried it with and without the "Classic Taskbar" thing ticked, and the result is the same.
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Post by leet on Mar 11, 2021 11:12:16 GMT -8
Please create an issue on GitHub.
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Post by travis on Mar 11, 2021 16:55:36 GMT -8
Copy the taskbar files into C:\SCT\Taskbar (If it's non-existent then create that directory), then open SCT, go to File > Options, go to the bottom dropdown menu, select "SCT Taskbar (Alpha)", then press enable, and then you have the taskbar. Do not use any other classic theme solutions like ClassicThemeTray or ClassicThemeA.exe. Too complicated it gives same bullshit about sct not being installed spite of it being there in sct . This program is not really there yet it should not ask for net or sct it should just load you knowe like startisback does , its earlier versions at least loaded up i just like programs that load up without hassle this one its not for me i fear ... uhguitispuhdfaughdfuiadshf;a9sydfa9s0f
it asks for .net, because it's made in .net?
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herit://that1cutie
Sophomore Member
sad girl times
Posts: 165 
OS: Windows 10
Theme: Shitbox Edition
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Post by herit://that1cutie on Mar 11, 2021 20:03:27 GMT -8
It asks for .NET because it's made in .NET.
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Post by s34642542 on Mar 12, 2021 4:40:59 GMT -8
Please create an issue on GitHub. Done.
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Post by leet on Mar 30, 2021 8:22:09 GMT -8
Development will be temporarily halted since I can't get Visual Studio loading the project correctly.
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Post by leet on May 17, 2021 7:17:33 GMT -8
Development has continued and I can't express how happy I am with the result. Thanks to Craftplacer the codebase is now much cleaner and easier to develop in. They've refactored almost the entire project and made everything more organised and streamlined for development. I've also done some stuff to improve SCTT, mainly moving from a pull-data system to a receive-data system. This way SCTT doesn't have to do as much work and as such, the CPU usage is now incredible! Look at these graphs:  The Taskbar barely goes above 5% and the memory sits nicely at 25-28MB. I've also implemented themeing into SCTT. Of course, with this comes an XP Luna theme:  The quick-launch toolbar is currently bugged out for an unknown reason but we'll fix that. Themes consist of a settings file in ini format, and a couple of images. I will specify the details when we release this as a build. Lastly, Craftplacer also made a new settings menu. Everything is more organized and the window is way smaller and compact. It even features a live preview of the taskbar:  We will probably release this somewhere in the next few weeks, depending on what we still want to implement and what we might come up with. What does this mean for SCTT Unmanaged? Well, the project is cancelled. SCTT now has most things I wanted SCTT Unmanaged to be. As I know and understand C# better, I think it's best to stick with it as performance with .NET 5 is almost the same as you would get with janky native C++ code. That's all I want to share for today. |
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Post by leet on May 18, 2021 13:04:56 GMT -8
As of commit fe6d345f SCTT no longer uses any C++ code. This means that the VC Redist libraries are no longer required in future updates. |
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Post by The Jackal on May 18, 2021 14:23:13 GMT -8
As of commit fe6d345f SCTT no longer uses any C++ code. This means that the VC Redist libraries are no longer required in future updates. Both of you have done an amazing job. Quick question, do the dev builds work atm? I got a little excited and tried it, but it's crashing for me. |
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Post by leet on May 18, 2021 14:27:54 GMT -8
They work for us, not for anyone else. Why? We're not sure.
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ISM
Sophomore Member
Posts: 116
OS: Windows 10 (22H2)
Theme: Classic theme (XP styled)
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Post by ISM on May 31, 2021 9:34:30 GMT -8
(Beta)
A complete Windows 7+ taskbar replacement. It's a simple .NET CLR (C# and C++) app which hides Shell_TrayWnd and replaces it with itself. Current features: - It uses system colors instead of predefined colors
- Working window manager
- A start button (compatible with Open-Shell Menu, if you need a custom button use SCTT not OS)
- A fully working old school systray
- Nice classic clock
- Pixel perfectly proportionate with the Win2K taskbar
- Is 28px instead of 30px (also automatically changes working area so that you don't get a gap)
- Works with SCT
SCT, SCTT, SCT+T, so many words, I'm confusedBasically here's how it all the terminology sticks together: - SCT: My original Classic Theme program. Bundles a ton of classic theme related utilities/files to make it easy to install classic theme fast
- SCTT: This program. Just a classic styled taskbar replacement, does not contain any classic theme functions.
- SCT+T: This is the confusing part. SCT+T stands for SimpleClassicTheme+Taskbar. It indicates any setup where SCTT is launched and managed by SCT.
Screenshots There are no screenshots yet
Command Line Usage
SimpleClassicThemeTaskbar.exe [OPERATION] {ARGS..}Operations: - --exit Closes any SCT managed instance of SCTT
TODO
Download
My suggestion is that you install SCTT via the SCT (link) settings menu.
SCT will do all the complicated script work for you and automatically enable everything correctly on logon.
If you want to download a binary and use it manually you'll have to wait until it becomes a seperate utility.
ALL BUILDS ARE CURRENTLY USABLE INSIDE OF SCT ONLY
Requirements:- .NET 5.0
- Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015, 2017 and 2019 (x86 | x64)
KNOWN ISSUES: - Graphical glitch in systray
- Systray icons don't properly show their corresponding menu's
- Does not apply correct system fonts
How do I report bugs?
NOTE: Make sure you have the latest version before reporting any bugs!It's simple. Go to this page and create an issue on the Github issue tracker. Use the format provided!
(just an idea/suggestion) I have a question, is there going to be a possibility that SCTT will have it's own start menu? And with that feature, it would have different start menu styles like Windows XP, Vista, etc. |
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Post by leet on May 31, 2021 13:35:00 GMT -8
No. This has nothing to do with the start menu but, thanks to Craftplacer is that SCTT will be able to load any XP Visual Style (*.msstyles) and render the taskbar accordingly. This means that SCTT will be compatible with pretty much all XP themes. |
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Post by leet on May 31, 2021 13:39:21 GMT -8
Sorry, I got too distracted with the visual styles that I forgot to be polite. To elaborate on why there will be no start menu:
Firstly, it's a lot of work. Creating a good start menu that people like takes a lot of effort and fine-tuning to become usable at all. Next, there's already tons of options that do a way better job at it than I could ever do. Take Open-Shell for example. It's the result of years of development and a big community effort. I would consider it the best start menu in existence. Finally, it doesn't fit into SCTT. The sole purpose of SCTT is to be a full taskbar replacement for use with Classic Theme. We mainly need this because there are not a lot of other (good) options. For the start menu there's no demand for a new replacement as Open-Shell already does it so well.
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ISM
Sophomore Member
Posts: 116
OS: Windows 10 (22H2)
Theme: Classic theme (XP styled)
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Post by ISM on Jun 1, 2021 12:26:22 GMT -8
Sorry, I got too distracted with the visual styles that I forgot to be polite. To elaborate on why there will be no start menu: Firstly, it's a lot of work. Creating a good start menu that people like takes a lot of effort and fine-tuning to become usable at all. Next, there's already tons of options that do a way better job at it than I could ever do. Take Open-Shell for example. It's the result of years of development and a big community effort. I would consider it the best start menu in existence. Finally, it doesn't fit into SCTT. The sole purpose of SCTT is to be a full taskbar replacement for use with Classic Theme. We mainly need this because there are not a lot of other (good) options. For the start menu there's no demand for a new replacement as Open-Shell already does it so well. Ok, I fully understand and thanks for you respond |
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